who's to blame?

Who's your ire most directed at?

  • the players

  • Koeman's face

  • Mosh's pockets

  • forum members doom-mongering at every loss

  • no ire, Chelsea are just way better than us

  • NEA...on toast


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True, just seen Koeman's interview, he looked shell shocked, lets hope he demands big bucks in January, he'll need it.

I refuse to criticise him, as to be perfectly honest I'm amazed he didn't walk in September after that window. He was totally sold down the river. Yeah, he would never have expected a humbling like tonight, but the way he set out that side today showed that he feared it, because quite simply the squad he has is not good enough, and he hasn't been allowed the players to give him a fair crack of the whip.

It's time to rein in expectations and see this season for what it obviously is - a wasted season that is at best a transitional one were we will do well to finish in the top ten, and a top eight finish at this point would be superb for Koeman.
 

The players.

Having heart and a bit of fight is not a talent. Completelycould not be arsed

Yeah this basically. Its been this way for years. Any time we are put under a bit of pressure we collapse because we dont have the mental aptitude to deal with any pressure.

As soon as the first goal went in today the match was over. We then proceeded to do my most hated thing in football, conceding another straight away. I hate that, we get possession from them scoring, how can you lose it so quickly??

The Barkley free kick in the first half summed us up. 2-0 down, ball just outside the box. 3-4 of our players are standing offside, Matic (massive lad, hard to miss) waves over to the linesman before the kick is taken to say they are all offside and to keep an eye on it, ball comes in, flag goes up for offside. Absolutely amateur stuff.
 
Hierarchy of blame:

Koeman
Stekelenburg
Jagielka

Koeman for his tactics
Koeman for signing Stek
Koeman for signing Bolasie
Koeman for dropping Holgate for Coleman
Koeman for bringing Jags back
Koeman for playing Cleverley
Koeman for not playing players on merit
Koeman for mouthing off in the press


*There's something for everyone there.
 

Koeman for his tactics
Koeman for signing Stek
Koeman for signing Bolasie
Koeman for dropping Holgate for Coleman
Koeman for bringing Jags back
Koeman for playing Cleverley
Koeman for not playing players on merit
Koeman for mouthing off in the press


*There's something for everyone there.


Hard to argue with any of this
 
Koeman for his tactics
Koeman for signing Stek
Koeman for signing Bolasie
Koeman for dropping Holgate for Coleman
Koeman for bringing Jags back
Koeman for playing Cleverley
Koeman for not playing players on merit
Koeman for mouthing off in the press


*There's something for everyone there.

Koeman for buggering off on his hols for half the summer.
 

Also, Coleman's throw-ins. They are the worst in the league by a mile.

Honestly, watch him next time if you haven't noticed it yet. Useless.
Mate coleman is piss poor has been for 18months and yet gets away without any [Poor language removed] coming his way.
 
EVERYONE.

Martinez for turning seasoned pros into precious little wimps who don't respond well to adversity.
Koeman for getting it so badly wrong from a tactical point of view and not wielding the axe before now.
The players for being utter, utter cowards with no fight or organisation.
Moshiri or whomever he put in charge of the summer transfers, it was an absolute disaster of a window that has left the squad full of deadwood and complete dud players for key positions.

We have to accept that just finishing in the top half is what we can realistically aim for this season. The road back to challenging for Europe is LONG one and we've barely made any progress so far.


Unsworth came in, one game, no time to prepare and we won 3-0 playing good football and players smiling as they walked onto the pitch.

Holgate has come in, won motm in his final prem game and dropped...Robles kept a clean sheet and dropped.

Players arent picked on merit...how Jags got in the side today amazes me.
 

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