who's to blame?

[ianefc]

Martinez

 

[tlefc]

Wow, why is that? Was he out on that pitch then? Did he have us playing the way we did today? Mate, you need to get a grip on reality.

He's left the squad threadbare with his lack on investment.

 

[Jags..class]

Chelsea was very good tbf. Hazard is the best inform player at the moment. Just have to get on with and move on.

 

[brieverton]

The players, with the exception of Tom Davies, are to blame.

Koeman is only in the door 5 minutes, and I'll put the disappointing window down to settling-in problems.

I'd be amazed if Koeman wasn't acutely aware of the scale of our problems well before tonight, as shambolic as it was.

RK isn't entirely blameless, how can it be otherwise for a 5-0 defeat, but our problems are 25 years in the making and so run very very deep.

I want to see some anger from RK, publically, as its the only indication we can hope for that at least someone is interested and willing to sort the mess out.

 

[EFCPaul]

EVERYONE.

Martinez for turning seasoned pros into precious little wimps who don't respond well to adversity.
Koeman for getting it so badly wrong from a tactical point of view and not wielding the axe before now.
The players for being utter, utter cowards with no fight or organisation.
Moshiri or whomever he put in charge of the summer transfers, it was an absolute disaster of a window that has left the squad full of deadwood and complete dud players for key positions.

We have to accept that just finishing in the top half is what we can realistically aim for this season. The road back to challenging for Europe is LONG one and we've barely made any progress so far.

 

[ToffeeDan]

No one played well, that's true - and a couple of errors contributed to the goals (though you can make a case out that Stek was blindsided by "offside-ish" players who, on another day would have drawn a flag - but we know that you'd need to be further forward than Jeff Astle (West Brom v Leeds early 70s) to appear offside as a Chelsea player in this fixture... so no chance of that happening..

Yeah the defence went missing but you can hardly pin that on any one player. To sum up our day Jags got booked when objective reffing would have awarded us a penalty (if the ball was still in play when Sideshow Bob elbowed him into the hoardings) but you know, home team 2-0 up, rampant, blah blah blah - doesn't fit the story. Maybe Madley hates Kopites and was doing the right thing..

 

[Deulofeumygod]

Chelsea were unbelievable and jags and our more senior players were shown up.

On to Swansea.

 

[Seathestars]

All of them on the pitch. You can be crap but still give 100%, can't stand it when they don't give a toss.

 

[Ernie]

Got to look at the bigger picture, and unfortunately the blame lies firmly with Moshiri in the summer.

Whether that was teething problems or he's an outright fraud, we simply don't know, but everyone needs to stop defending the indefensible now - that transfer window was a total abortion and we simply do not have the tools to compete in this league to any effective level whatsoever.

Indeed, without the signing of Gana and the goalscoring form of Lukaku, we'd be in a relegation fight right now, despite a ridiculously easy run of fixtures to start the league campaign. That's how paper thin our squad is.

Yes it the directors fault Koeman set his team out wrong and failed to motivate his squad

 

[Tubey]

All of them on the pitch. You can be crap but still give 100%, can't stand it when they don't give a toss.

That's fine, and I agree, but the bigger picture is that even if all of them turned up, we very likely wouldn't have got anything from that game anyway, because the squad lacks balance in a big way and has since Martinez decimated it in his second summer.

 

[ProZ]

We made Chelsea look unbelievable so I'd wish people would stop rimming them if possible, thanks in advance.

 

[Paul w]

Wow, why is that? Was he out on that pitch then? Did he have us playing the way we did today? Mate, you need to get a grip on reality.

Maybe mate because he come in saying there was money to spend a large amount and yet we didn't spend a penny,a and only bought players on the back of stones going.wake up.

 

[4737carlin]

It was Chelseas fault

 

[Seathestars]

That's fine, and I agree, but the bigger picture is that even if all of them turned up, we very likely wouldn't have got anything from that game anyway, because the squad lacks balance in a big way and has since Martinez decimated it in his second summer.

True, just seen Koeman's interview, he looked shell shocked, lets hope he demands big bucks in January, he'll need it.

 

[Boss_Blue]

BT Sport for choosing this game to broadcast live.