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I grew up watching American Football as well, though I have a totally different take on it than you do...

I never saw it as a sport for true athletes outside of the skill positions. And even then they get a rest after playing for 5-10 seconds at a time. The statisticians out there have found that out of the 60 minutes on the game clock, only 12-15 minutes are actual play time throughout a given game. The rest is huddles, time-outs, and after-the-play celebrations. Not exactly my idea of hard fought.

And don't get me started about all of the commercial breaks, ugh..

All that said: I did watch the superbowl yesterday, because around the watering hole at work today that will be all the chatter; and I'm personally probably going to be talking about the two-footed challenge from Saturday's match so I can get a few odd looks from the lads.
 

It is interesting because I find myself as passionate, if not more passionate about World football than american football. Anyone out there (outside the US) like American football?

Are you kidding? I left American football long ago. Have you actually timed the number of "played minutes" in an NFL game compared to a soccer match? Seriously try it. It's laughable. The primary clock is what 60 minutes but most of the time is spend in a huddle or calling out reads before a snap. It's a national disgrace that people consider this our best sport. Commercial break!... Commercial break AGAIN! The NFL is dead to me and has been for a long time. Nothing but steroids and stupid fcuks outside of a select few true pro's.
 
300+ prop forwards regularly 'sack' less than 200 scrum halfs, they aren't there to just take part in the scrums though, they have to attack and defend, with non-stop action for 80 mins, they don't swap the teams over for attack and defence.

i just dont think that a 300+ nfl player could keep going for 80 mins constant.
 
300+ prop forwards regularly 'sack' less than 200 scrum halfs, they aren't there to just take part in the scrums though, they have to attack and defend, with non-stop action for 80 mins, they don't swap the teams over for attack and defence.

i just dont think that a 300+ nfl player could keep going for 80 mins constant.

They train for the game they play. You would be shocked at how fast many of those 300 pound guys are - 4.6 40 yard times and with quick feet and good balance. Even the non-skill guys are remarkable athletes although admittedly with crazy specializations.

DVR is the greatest thing ever to happen for my enjoyment of the NFL. Despite growing up loving the game, I had stopped watching altogether because I couldn't take the commercials anymore. But since the DVR came, a 3 hour game can be watched in 40 minutes without missing a single second of action. In the USA, the "skip forward" button on the dvr remotes are programmed with the exact number of seconds that get you from the tackle to the next snap without having to watch the huddle.
 

300+ prop forwards regularly 'sack' less than 200 scrum halfs, they aren't there to just take part in the scrums though, they have to attack and defend, with non-stop action for 80 mins, they don't swap the teams over for attack and defence.

i just dont think that a 300+ nfl player could keep going for 80 mins constant.

I agree with the above, these guys train for the different games they play. The NFL has some of the greatest athletes in the world, but they're trained to play in short spurts and carry extra bulk.
 
I agree with the above, these guys train for the different games they play. The NFL has some of the greatest athletes in the world, but they're trained to play in short spurts and carry extra bulk.

I have to say I disagree with this. There are some good athletes, yes, but not even close to the greatest in the world.

I'm sorry to say, but there is no '40 yard dash for men who weigh over 300lbs' competition out there; nor is there a 'who can chuck the pigskin the farthest'. Although I have heard in Wisconsin there is a wife carrying contest, maybe they would excel at that. And the winner gets his wife's weight in ale.
 
I agree with the above, these guys train for the different games they play. The NFL has some of the greatest athletes in the world, but they're trained to play in short spurts and carry extra bulk.

Translation: Obligatory "greatest athletes in the world" tossed in. They train to play in short spurts then they stand around and scratch each others asses. Seriously TIME how many minutes they actually play for. You will laugh.

I'm American and used to be a Cowboys fan (since 1978) then I realized how utterly boring the game is.

What does this all have to do with Landon? NOTHING! Landon has more class in his little finger than most NFL thugs will ever be capable of comprehending.

Grogtank living up to his name again!
 
Are you kidding? I left American football long ago. Have you actually timed the number of "played minutes" in an NFL game compared to a soccer match? Seriously try it. It's laughable. The primary clock is what 60 minutes but most of the time is spend in a huddle or calling out reads before a snap. It's a national disgrace that people consider this our best sport. Commercial break!... Commercial break AGAIN! The NFL is dead to me and has been for a long time. Nothing but steroids and stupid fcuks outside of a select few true pro's.

dont take away from the athletes.. bash the game if you like but who are you to judge the players?
 
Anyway, Landon...

I made my girlfriend be a 'fan' of him on Facebook (i can't be doing with all that!), and you should see some of the comments he gets on there. So far this is my favourite:

'hw is the boy with the wig. for hw long is he out?'

Brilliant.
 
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Yikes I'm behind. I'll do quick bullet answers then.

You need to see Landon's interview in the post match session after he scored his first goal if you haven't already. Cahill is giving him some smack in the background talking about touchdowns.:P

Haha, that sounds awesome! Where can I watch this? I didn't get that match in the first place, only was able to watch donovan's goal clilp from SBI.

* this match was a disappointment. The reffing was horrible, Everton didn't seem to completely show up and Liverpool outplayed us. :( Too bad that couldn't have been 3 points.

* At least it was in HD for us! :lol:

* I'll agree with Felix's summary about LD - I think he could have done more. He does seem to be reluctant to make his own runs off the ball and often looks too quick to pass it back. He isn't known to do this, so I'm wondering if he's playing cautious or not. The good news is LD was able to put in a full 90 (or 99 as it were) on Saturday. More likely I think someone else hit the nail on the head with LD's place on the team. He's a leader, but not on this team. He's probably carefully trying to chose his place between bossing other players around for motivation, or shutting up & coloring (i.e. knowing his place). I'm guessing he's trying to find that balance. I definitely don't think he "gave up" at any point during the match, he was still running full-speed by the end, one of few Everton players showing that hustle. He was just quick to pass the ball back and do those one-touch passes instead of runs, which as was said I'd like to see more of.

* I thought Donovan's shot was horrible as well, but have to credit him for taking the shot. It keeps defenses honest a bit and might draw more coverage to Donovan as a shooting threat on future runs.

* Regarding the "best-looking" USMNT players, the gf likes Bocanegra herself - she thinks he looks a little like Scott Wolf, whom women fawn over for some reason. Her 2nd favorite is Tim Howard, who she says looks like Jason Taylor. She says LD is "cute" but not in the "hot" kind of way like the others are.


MLS is not quite EPL: You should come join the group of us Evertonians that watch games in Seattle at the George and Dragon in Fremont. Take a look at the schedule of when they're showing games here: Matches on the Telly | George & Dragon Pub | Seattle's British Pub in Fremont

I'm not sure if anyone can make it to the mid week game against Chelsea but we'll be there on the 20th for the Manchester United game.

Here's the Seattle's EvertonUSA page: Everton USA - Seattle which we manage to update occasionally.
Thanks for the invite! I tend to keep to myself now though, don't do the viewings much anymore. I tried out the supporter group thing with the Sounders last year and have realized that most of the soccer/footy fans are not really the type of people I fit in with I guess. :beer:

fact, if i put on a lid and shoulder pads i would have no qualms whatsoever about stepping onto the field in a 'gridiron' game
you'd probably have broken limbs & some concussions to show for it as well! Pads don't prevent injury, as is evidenced daily in that league. Rugby's tough, but the "Rugby doesn't use pads, therefore it is tougher" argument is possibly the worst ever. Gridiron used to not use pads either, but when the players & hits got bigger, the pads were a necessity. The pads were not introduced to make Rugby seem more tough or gridiron appear more wimpy - they were added because people were getting hurt. I realize people get hurt in Rugby too, but not to the level & with the frequency NFL players do. Common sense tells me the answer to the question right there, but this isn't a gridiron vs rugby thread though, so i'll just leave it. :lol:

won't compare soccer to gridiron either as they're completely different. I don't like how some feel the need to "pick" one over the other. Can't we enjoy both? I do. (y)

I'm a DVR guy too though - I have to record it as watching an NFL game live just takes too long. I don't blame the game as much as the NFL. Citing a good quote from an awesome movie, "Football died the first time they stopped a game for a commercial break". Don't think gridiron players are the best athletes in the world, but I don't think you can say that about any sport as a whole.

The fact is there are NFL players who could outrun soccer players - we have a NFL running back who recently challenged Usain Bolt to a footrace because he recorded a faster time at the combine. And obviously there are linemen that can't even run the length of the field, so you have players all over the place that fit their positions. I don't think England has any sports similar to that outside of the handful of types Rugby uses, but even that doesn't scratch the surface of specialization like the NFL employs. Hard to understand if you didn't grow up with it though, I completely understand that.
 
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American football always has and always will put me to sleep.

Sure I'll watch it from time to time (Super Bowl, NCAA "National Championship," etc...) but I don't go out of my way to watch it.

I'll watch French Ligue 1 before I watch the NFL.

In fact, I have watched French Ligue 1 before the NFL.
 
American football always has and always will put me to sleep.

Sure I'll watch it from time to time (Super Bowl, NCAA "National Championship," etc...) but I don't go out of my way to watch it.

I'll watch French Ligue 1 before I watch the NFL.

In fact, I have watched French Ligue 1 before the NFL.

sorry Bill can't run with you on that one French ligue one is a major yawner.
 
What about the upcoming match with Chelsea?

Does anyone fancy our chances?

Is it true that our chances are better because it won't be as big a rivalry match as Liverpool?

Oh, and sorry about starting the super bowl thread. I like this forum because there are some very intelligent people with a strong knowledge of world football (when I say world football I am referring out to we odd ball Americans call soccer). So, it was disappointing to see the digression of conversation toward the merits of the NFL blah blah blah.

(y)
 

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