Ross Barkley

Joey66 · September 25, 2016

Eggs said:
...I can understand the press fixation regarding Barkley, he's supposed to be one of our main men just like every team has it's high profile players. Nobody complains if he has a great game and the press highlight it so when he continues to underperform it's bound to result in questions.

Barkley needs to positively impact games on a week by week basis to be worthy of a top player tag, unfortunately he has failed to do that. It's not a coincidence that he's not linked with moves to truly top clubs.

so is KM who we paid top money for he is either brilliant or he disappears looks bone idle lately!

Eggs · September 25, 2016

Joey66 said:
so is KM who we paid top money for he is either brilliant or he disappears looks bone idle lately!

...i presume you mean Mirallas, Joey. I think he cost £8m and looked a great buy but I have my doubts about his professionalism. Goal scoring wingers are a premium and he's certainly one of those if his mind is right but I fear those days are few and far between.

We seem to have a number of talented individuals who are lacking in crucial parts of their make up.

DualityNSNO · September 25, 2016

Joey66 said:
so is KM who we paid top money for he is either brilliant or he disappears looks bone idle lately!

KM? Kevin Mirallas?

We paid £6m for him.

MartyMcFly · September 25, 2016

blarger said:
After all the debates on Rooney and his eventual dropping, it's laughable really when you look at all the players that can play at 10 instead of him. The issue at Everton is, where are the other 10's to drop Barkley? He hasn't got any competition really.

Mirallas, Cleverly, Davies and Deulofeu could be tried there. Davies was very good when he played there in the last game of last season.

Joey66 · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
KM? Kevin Mirallas?

We paid £6m for him.

and top wages RB cost us nothing so the local lad bears the brunt?

Lowste · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
KM? Kevin Mirallas?

We paid £6m for him.

At the time and our financial predict entitled was a fair amount of money

DualityNSNO · September 25, 2016

Joey66 said:
and top wages RB cost us nothing so the local lad bears the brunt?

Not the best example for either wages or transfer fee you picked there, but I know what you're trying to say.

I don't particularly agree with it, as I don't feel it's why people are slating Barkley, but I can see what you mean.

DualityNSNO · September 25, 2016

Lowste said:
At the time and our financial predict entitled was a fair amount of money

IIRC Rodwell's transfer pretty much paid for that.

And even then £5-6m wasn't exactly £50m.

DualityNSNO · September 25, 2016

MartyMcFly said:
Mirallas, Cleverly, Davies and Deulofeu could be tried there. Davies was very good when he played there in the last game of last season.

Wouldn't play Cleverley at all, anywhere, for Everton, but that might just be me.

Lowste · September 25, 2016

Joey66 said:
and top wages RB cost us nothing so the local lad bears the brunt?

I always think did Rooney leave so early in his Everton career as he had the foresight to know when his standards dropped he would be slated
We slate the local lads and for some reason give the foreign and other signings a endless supply of excuses.

I always think if Barkley would do done what Miralles done in the WBA game last season what would of been the fume from some Everton fans...in Miralles he got away with it

Lowste · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
IIRC Rodwell's transfer pretty much paid for that.

And even then £5-6m wasn't exactly £50m.

Doesn't matter were the money come from it was still a substantial figure in terms of what we had.

I would say in relative terms his fee was around what we paid for Bolassie

Lowste · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
Wouldn't play Cleverley at all, anywhere, for Everton, but that might just be me.

He added energy to yesterday's pitiful performance, but a squad player at best

DualityNSNO · September 25, 2016

Lowste said:
Doesn't matter were the money come from it was still a substantial figure in terms of what we had.

I would say in relative terms his fee was around what we paid for Bolassie

Can't agree with the comparison again, but I know we were in a massively different predicament. Thing is, we made a slight profit of a few million, traded players well, and it meant that we were back to £0 on the 31st, but it was hardly the season before that (Magaye Gueye only transfer

).

That comparison means that we bought Pienaar back for a fee (comparatively) close to Bolasie as well?

Lowste · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
Can't agree with the comparison again, but I know we were in a massively different predicament. Thing is, we made a slight profit of a few million, traded players well, and it meant that we were back to £0 on the 31st, but it was hardly the season before that (Magaye Gueye only transfer ).

That comparison means that we bought Pienaar back for a fee (comparatively) close to Bolasie as well?

Just trying to say 5ml back then is the same as 25ml now....football gone mad

I guess in Miralles and Bolassie we have bought the same type of player....good player but not the finished article

MartyMcFly · September 25, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
Wouldn't play Cleverley at all, anywhere, for Everton, but that might just be me.

Cleverly has not been the worst player this season. He was one of the better performers against Norwich and also Bournemouth although I admit that wasn't hard.

I doubt he would be worse than Ross. May actually put himself about a bit.