Transfer Rumour Lamine Kone

[Jags..class]

Sunderland fans need to remember Moyes skill is selling players for high Fees and buying gems cheap.

Pienaar
Cahill
Jags
Lescot
Mikel

Sell us Kone and raid the championship

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Mate i lived up there for years, it may be treated as a derby, but it isn't, Liverpool against the Mancs or us against City aren't Derbies either - no matter Sky trying to do a 'north west derby' or 'north east derby' tag onto them to make them sound more exciting,

Cna't wait till we play Spouthampton in the 'Koeman Derby' or maybe we can tag irt a s the 'Port Cities Derby'

Derby for me anyeways will always be the team from the same City, or in Londons case the closest rival in that City or on one town teams like Sudnerland - it'll be the nearest local rival - so Newcastle. Else you get into the situation where half of Arsenals games every season are Derbies

Just cos the fans don't like a team and want to smash them doesn't make it a Derby game, just means they don't like them, i can't stand Newcastle but not gonna start calling it a Northern Derby when we play them

Wouldn't Everton or the rs v Tranmere be a Merseyside derby?

Is Leeds v Bradford classes as a derby seeing as they're almost merging into the same city?

 

[bluestevon]

Wouldn't Everton or the rs v Tranmere be a Merseyside derby?

Is Leeds v Bradford classes as a derby seeing as they're almost merging into the same city?

Depends who you talk too mate, i never ever would consider Tranmere a derby as they arent and never have been a rival to us, also think that a team has one proper derby and the rest are just given the label to help sell the game to a generally ignorant tv audience - more often than not abroad as well these days

Even remember when Blackburn where doing well years ago them billing the Manc game against them as the Lancashire Derby, strangely when they drew them in the cup years after it didnt get the billing the same way as it had become an irrelevance as a game

In this example of S'land - Boro, trust me having lived there Sunderland Derby game is against Newcastle, Newcastles is Sudnerland, Boro think of both games against those two as Derbies - because they are the smaller team and it helps them try to feel relevant,

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Depends who you talk too mate, i never ever would consider Tranmere a derby as they arent and never have been a rival to us, also think that a team has one proper derby and the rest are just given the label to help sell the game to a generally ignorant tv audience - more often than not abroad as well these days

Even remember when Blackburn where doing well years ago them billing the Manc game against them as the Lancashire Derby, strangely when they drew them in the cup years after it didnt get the billing the same way as it had become an irrelevance as a game

In this example of S'land - Boro, trust me having lived there Sunderland Derby game is against Newcastle, Newcastles is Sudnerland, Boro think of both games against those two as Derbies - because they are the smaller team and it helps them try to feel relevant,

I get your point as there always seems to be a combination of criteria applied when terming a match as a derby.
The media alway apply criteria in the most convenient fashion as with the Utd v Blackburn games you mention of the mid 90s where the rivalry was the key thing for them (the media) ahead of any geographical proximity.
I've always believed the origin of the word to come from one of the earliest football matches between 2 teams from the city of Derby. I suppose it was dubbed 'the Derby match' and thereafter was used to describe matches between 2 teams from the same city. With time the definition has obviously extended.
Where will it end?

 

[bluestevon]

I get your point as there always seems to be a combination of criteria applied when terming a match as a derby.
The media alway apply criteria in the most convenient fashion as with the Utd v Blackburn games you mention of the mid 90s where the rivalry was the key thing for them (the media) ahead of any geographical proximity.
I've always believed the origin of the word to come from one of the earliest football matches between 2 teams from the city of Derby. I suppose it was dubbed 'the Derby match' and thereafter was used to describe matches between 2 teams from the same city. With time the definition has obviously extended.
Where will it end?

When the ants take over the world mate, it will happen one day

 

[MikeH72]

I reckon Moyes and Sunderland shouldn't be standing in the way of him furthering his career

 

[Sunderland afc]

Toss up as to who are more delusional, the kopites and the Geordies! Both consider themselves to be everyone's favourite 'second team' when in truth no-one has got any time for either.

Can't disagree with a word of this.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I get your point as there always seems to be a combination of criteria applied when terming a match as a derby.
The media alway apply criteria in the most convenient fashion as with the Utd v Blackburn games you mention of the mid 90s where the rivalry was the key thing for them (the media) ahead of any geographical proximity.
I've always believed the origin of the word to come from one of the earliest football matches between 2 teams from the city of Derby. I suppose it was dubbed 'the Derby match' and thereafter was used to describe matches between 2 teams from the same city. With time the definition has obviously extended.
Where will it end?

Always remember when the RS were due to play Man U, and sky were branding it as one of the 'biggest derbies' in the world, but when the RS played Man City, there was no hype, and no talk of it being a derby.

 

[Albertini78]

Mate i lived up there for years, it may be treated as a derby, but it isn't, Liverpool against the Mancs or us against City aren't Derbies either - no matter Sky trying to do a 'north west derby' or 'north east derby' tag onto them to make them sound more exciting,

Cna't wait till we play Spouthampton in the 'Koeman Derby' or maybe we can tag irt a s the 'Port Cities Derby'

Derby for me anyeways will always be the team from the same City, or in Londons case the closest rival in that City or on one town teams like Sudnerland - it'll be the nearest local rival - so Newcastle. Else you get into the situation where half of Arsenals games every season are Derbies

Just cos the fans don't like a team and want to smash them doesn't make it a Derby game, just means they don't like them, i can't stand Newcastle but not gonna start calling it a Northern Derby when we play them

There's 13 mile between the Cities and 15 mins away on a train Sunderland v Newcastle is very much a derby. Now Sunderland v The Toxic Crusanders means very little to me if we lose against them I'm over it in a day lose to the mags and it hurts for days/weeks

 

[TheFinnFan]

lol @rochdaleblue well put

 

[Albertini78]

This fella will sign a new contract with Sunderland when the window, same as Rom will for us.

No chance of this happening and tbh most just want the [Poor language removed] out of our club now the sooner we take the £18m or whatever the better

 

[bluestevon]

There's 13 mile between the Cities and 15 mins away on a train Sunderland v Newcastle is very much a derby. Now Sunderland v The Toxic Crusanders means very little to me if we lose against them I'm over it in a day lose to the mags and it hurts for days/weeks

Aye mate, used to live on Hylton road so well aware of the feelings towards both Newcastle and Boro

 

[Neiler]

I can see this going to the wire, think he will move but knowing Davey he will want to put down a marker inside and outside the club.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[blue62]

I reckon Moyes and Sunderland shouldn't be standing in the way of him furthering his career

He signed a 4 year deal six months ago, I think Sunderland have every right to try to keep him and don't blame them at all, they need him and it would be a real blow to their hopes of avoiding another scrappy season.