Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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Here is the list again but a bit more readable, I've only included transfers-in from Prem clubs this summer that have a disclosed fee.

Clearly, we've left ourselves with a hellish lot of work to do.


ARSENAL
Granit Xhaka - Borussia Monchengladbach, £34m

BOURNEMOUTH
Jordon Ibe - Liverpool, £15m
Lys Mousset - Le Havre, £5.4m
Lewis Cook - Leeds, £10m

CHELSEA
Michy Batshuayi - Marseille, £33.2m
N'Golo Kante - Leicester, £32m

CRYSTAL PALACE
Andros Townsend - Newcastle United, £13m
James Tomkins - West Ham, £10m

LEICESTER CITY
Nampalys Mendy - Nice, £13m
Ron-Robert Zieler - Hannover, £2.6m

LIVERPOOL
Sadio Mane - Southampton, £36m
Loris Karius - Mainz, £4.7m

MANCHESTER CITY
Ilkay Gundogan - Borussia Dortmund, £21m
Nolito, Celta Vigo, £13.8m

MANCHESTER UNITED
Eric Bailly - Villarreal, £30m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Borussia Dortmund, £26.3m

MIDDLESBROUGH
Marten de Roon - Atalanta, £12m
Viktor Fischer - Ajax, £3.8m

SOUTHAMPTON
Nathan Redmond - Norwich, £11m

SWANSEA CITY
Leroy Fer - QPR, £4.75m

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Vincent Janssen - AZ Alkmaar, £18.6m
Victor Wanyama - Southampton, £11m

WATFORD
Isaac Success - Granada, £12.5m
Christian Kabasele - Genk, £5.8m

WEST BROMWICH ALBION
Matt Phillips - QPR, £5.5m

WEST HAM UNITED
Manuel Lanzini - Al Jazira Club, £9.4m
Toni Martinez - Valencia, £2.25m
Basically Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, City and Utd have all spent between 30m-70m with one or two big signings.

We also probably needed to spend more than them as well if the "challenging for the champions league" wasn't just a load of hot air nonsense to generate season ticket sales.
 
It's not fanciful though. If you speak to senior officials of other clubs there's a recognition that this sleeping giant is about to be woke. History shows that at times we can compete financially with other clubs we win trophies.

We have the potential to break into the PL established elite and our peers are concerned rightly that we will do so.

I'm yet to see any sign that we "can compete financially with other clubs". Signing Koeman is not that sign. He has the potential but he wasn't in that top tier of managers we were discussing a few months ago.

Signing players our rivals are also going for, while keeping Rom & Stones, is that sign (as that points to the fabled 100m net spend).

When that happens, I'm merrily on board the fanciful train. No sign of it so far, tho'.

Our rivals don't seem to have this issue:

Here is the list again but a bit more readable, I've only included transfers-in from Prem clubs this summer that have a disclosed fee.

Clearly, we've left ourselves with a hellish lot of work to do.


ARSENAL
Granit Xhaka - Borussia Monchengladbach, £34m

BOURNEMOUTH
Jordon Ibe - Liverpool, £15m
Lys Mousset - Le Havre, £5.4m
Lewis Cook - Leeds, £10m

CHELSEA
Michy Batshuayi - Marseille, £33.2m
N'Golo Kante - Leicester, £32m

CRYSTAL PALACE
Andros Townsend - Newcastle United, £13m
James Tomkins - West Ham, £10m

LEICESTER CITY
Nampalys Mendy - Nice, £13m
Ron-Robert Zieler - Hannover, £2.6m

LIVERPOOL
Sadio Mane - Southampton, £36m
Loris Karius - Mainz, £4.7m

MANCHESTER CITY
Ilkay Gundogan - Borussia Dortmund, £21m
Nolito, Celta Vigo, £13.8m

MANCHESTER UNITED
Eric Bailly - Villarreal, £30m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Borussia Dortmund, £26.3m

MIDDLESBROUGH
Marten de Roon - Atalanta, £12m
Viktor Fischer - Ajax, £3.8m

SOUTHAMPTON
Nathan Redmond - Norwich, £11m

SWANSEA CITY
Leroy Fer - QPR, £4.75m

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Vincent Janssen - AZ Alkmaar, £18.6m
Victor Wanyama - Southampton, £11m

WATFORD
Isaac Success - Granada, £12.5m
Christian Kabasele - Genk, £5.8m

WEST BROMWICH ALBION
Matt Phillips - QPR, £5.5m

WEST HAM UNITED
Manuel Lanzini - Al Jazira Club, £9.4m
Toni Martinez - Valencia, £2.25m
 
Thanks for taking the time, effort and energy to qrite such a reply

We should have already bought a keeper....like you stated Martinez should have got one...he didnt. Koeman knows we need one....he should have got one.

its poor going into friendlies without a 1st choice keeper to get used to the defence and vice versa.
Or maybe Koeman knows that Joel is a very decent keeper and plans to use him as a number one? With the guidance of a WC finalist, in Stekelemburg, maybe Joel will be even better? Remember how he, at times, kept the results as "good" (read "not as humiliating") for us as possible? Yeah, he had the odd dodgy moment, but so does every keeper, it's a tough position.

With a good defense in front of him Joel can perform very well. I know you wanted us to sign imaginary world beaters from teams you've apparently scouted, but realistically was that going to happen?
 
But there is no sign that we aren't going to do that! We have had a new manager in charge for two weeks, and he hasn't even yet seen the full extent of the squad.

Patience is a virtue and a fair few on here need to get that in their heads.
To be fair it's only the youngsters he will need to run the rule over. He like any other manager about will know about all our 1st team players, he's played us 4 times to start with.
 

To be fair mate that does have to be balanced slightly. Southampton were in better shape than he left them, and Feyenoord were left in far better shape than he left them. He inherited a debt ridden club spiralling towards relegation and bankruptcy and left them as a side who finished in the top 2 of Holland after giving several young players an opportunity (De Vrij, Mendis-Indi, Claissie to name 3). Those are his last 2 jobs.

As regards Ajax yes they declined but when you look at his spend figures it can hardly be surprising, he brought in over twice as much as he spent. Similar story with PSV. He failed At AZ, Valencia & Benfica but there does need to be some balance about the last 2 jobs he's done.

Anyway in other matters on goalkeepers, Leno V Horn what do you make of each of them? How would your preference compare to De Stegen? And I suppose the key critical question, is the German keepers are so good why isn't there more interest in them do you think?
So basically the record of a decent journeyman manager which is what the original point was. A European Mark Hughes or a Dutch Davy Moyes.
 
To be fair at the time Valencia were the best outside kf Real and Barca....he fell out with the players, the fans hated him and he would have relegated them if he wasnt sacked.

Also to be fair Benfica were the best side in portugal by far when he took over. They won the seasons before and after he finished 3rd in a 3team league.

So he did manage 2 big clubs.
Thing is mate, you are forgetting he managed them at the start of his managerial career. So where he made mistakes and was nieve about being a manager it all came out then. As he is moving on he is learning from his mistakes, because he is getting repercussions from managing badly. Whereas martinez for example had none when he got here so he kept going the same way.

So in general perspective he done a much better job at Southampton than he did at Valencia because of experience. No koeman is not a top manager, those who a generally always successful are the ones that only move to top clubs (Jose, ancellotti, guadiola) so koeman isn't in that bracket. But point is, those top managers wouldn't look twice at us no matter how much we offered to pay them.

For koeman this could be the club where it all sticks for him, it could be another learning curve. But what he will do is make us better and that is the most important thing. He takes us back into Europe then that is a massive improvement on the last 2 years where we were nowhere near that level. Even city for all their millions spent aimed to get a Europe place before they kicked on. And if we are struggling to get the better quality players to the club as it may seem we are, even more important that koeman can turn us back onto a top 6 team to be a much better attraction next summer.
 

Basically Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea, City and Utd have all spent between 30m-70m with one or two big signings.

We also probably needed to spend more than them as well if the "challenging for the champions league" wasn't just a load of hot air nonsense to generate season ticket sales.

There's no logical reason why we are slower than everyone else in securing signings.

Plus we've lost mainstay squad players due to retirement: Howard, Osman, Hibbert, Pienaar...they need replacing and urgently.
 
Lad over the road who is a sports journo for a broadsheet, says that from what he's hearing Everton will cane three or four big transfers in one week and what's holding them up is the minutiae of the contracts, so no need to panic.

My uncle has a dog, he says his brother has a cousin who works for some newspaper: apparently we're in talks with one or two really long noses.
 
Even without any signings we are stronger than last season due to the fact we have a manager that can organise a defence. Not playing Howard will also lead to an improvement.

Everton have never done buying for the sake of buying. We moaned about dithering Dave but in that period we had one of the best hit rates for successful transfers and also for player retention at the club. This gave us stability, a good reputation in the market place with players and other clubs, a fantastic team spirit, and ultimately allowed us to compete on a shoe string.

Just because we now have the resources in place does not mean we need to abandon those principles that served us well in the transfer market. FSG have been burned multiple times, as have Ellis Short, Mike Ashley and Randy Lerner, rich owners who 'showed ambition' and 'backed their manager' throwing money at the latest names in the European game but to no success. Moshiri Koeman and Kenwright are all football people with so much experience. We should be glad they are at the club rather than trigger happy owners and scatter gun managers with no plan like Rodgers or McClaren or O Neill. If they are biding their time, then I trust they are doing it for the right reasons. If it's taking a few weeks longer to get a good value deal rather than spending 15 mill on a Jordan Ibe then I would rather do that every time than panic buy.

I am supremely confident that over the next month or so we will see the needs of the squad in the goal keeping position, creative mid and potentially backup striker sorted out with quality solutions.
 

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