Everton Transfer Thread 2016

[BlueToff]

If were using RS examples how about £5mil for Karius?

Theres no excuse for us not signing a keeper....

We have signed a keeper.

 

[BlueToff]

..you need to turn this in man, it's a bit odd.

Let me put it like this...you say 'There's no excuse for us not signing a keeper'.

So, a few things on that score...

Firstly - we have, cover as he may be, so your point is automatically null as it goes, partic in light of it being untrue...

Secondly - this was a subject that the last manager should have addressed a long time ago (JAN 14 by his own admission) and, frankly, him not doing so cost us gawwwd knows how many points last season.

Thirdly - and this is the biggy - no matter what sort of 'project' is on the go here we have to face facts that players may NOT wish to sign for us if other avenues are open to them. It's so easy for people to go, as they do & are '...yeah, they'll sign if the money's right...double the dough, they'll be here...' Really? Doesn't always work that way because again - sadly - there are bigger clubs - or rather perhaps more 'appealing' clubs - than us that are throwing money around at the moment...

Last time we threw money around....we got NIASSE (or what may or may not be the actual NIASSE).

The panic is utter madness at this stage. To repeat...the full squad hasn't even been together yet & we've played once, behind doors, on what looked like a school field. Pffff...

Be patient, stop kicking...you gloomy boob.

great post

 

[Zatara]

What top club has he managed? A club in Portugal, a fading power in Spain?

Awesome. A real heavy hitter.

To be fair at the time Valencia were the best outside kf Real and Barca....he fell out with the players, the fans hated him and he would have relegated them if he wasnt sacked.

Also to be fair Benfica were the best side in portugal by far when he took over. They won the seasons before and after he finished 3rd in a 3team league.

So he did manage 2 big clubs.

 

[Zatara]

We have signed a keeper.

Very funny

 

[dholliday]

Here is the list again but a bit more readable, I've only included transfers-in from Prem clubs this summer that have a disclosed fee.

Clearly, we've left ourselves with a hellish lot of work to do.


ARSENAL
Granit Xhaka - Borussia Monchengladbach, £34m

BOURNEMOUTH
Jordon Ibe - Liverpool, £15m
Lys Mousset - Le Havre, £5.4m
Lewis Cook - Leeds, £10m

CHELSEA
Michy Batshuayi - Marseille, £33.2m
N'Golo Kante - Leicester, £32m

CRYSTAL PALACE
Andros Townsend - Newcastle United, £13m
James Tomkins - West Ham, £10m

LEICESTER CITY
Nampalys Mendy - Nice, £13m
Ron-Robert Zieler - Hannover, £2.6m

LIVERPOOL
Sadio Mane - Southampton, £36m
Loris Karius - Mainz, £4.7m

MANCHESTER CITY
Ilkay Gundogan - Borussia Dortmund, £21m
Nolito, Celta Vigo, £13.8m

MANCHESTER UNITED
Eric Bailly - Villarreal, £30m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Borussia Dortmund, £26.3m

MIDDLESBROUGH
Marten de Roon - Atalanta, £12m
Viktor Fischer - Ajax, £3.8m

SOUTHAMPTON
Nathan Redmond - Norwich, £11m

SWANSEA CITY
Leroy Fer - QPR, £4.75m

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Vincent Janssen - AZ Alkmaar, £18.6m
Victor Wanyama - Southampton, £11m

WATFORD
Isaac Success - Granada, £12.5m
Christian Kabasele - Genk, £5.8m

WEST BROMWICH ALBION
Matt Phillips - QPR, £5.5m

WEST HAM UNITED
Manuel Lanzini - Al Jazira Club, £9.4m
Toni Martinez - Valencia, £2.25m

 

[catcherintherye]

They wouldnt be if he wasnt quickly replaced. Its well known about AZ Benfica and Valencia.

You cant change history.

To be fair mate that does have to be balanced slightly. Southampton were in better shape than he left them, and Feyenoord were left in far better shape than he left them. He inherited a debt ridden club spiralling towards relegation and bankruptcy and left them as a side who finished in the top 2 of Holland after giving several young players an opportunity (De Vrij, Mendis-Indi, Claissie to name 3). Those are his last 2 jobs.

As regards Ajax yes they declined but when you look at his spend figures it can hardly be surprising, he brought in over twice as much as he spent. Similar story with PSV. He failed At AZ, Valencia & Benfica but there does need to be some balance about the last 2 jobs he's done.

Anyway in other matters on goalkeepers, Leno V Horn what do you make of each of them? How would your preference compare to De Stegen? And I suppose the key critical question, is the German keepers are so good why isn't there more interest in them do you think?

 

[Westland]

Tarashaj plays attacking midfield like barkley and the rest are rubbish so we definitelt need someone else.

We also have no idea how good Tarashaj is. If Martinez's other bargain basement attacking signings are anything to go by I wouldn't get our hopes up.

 

[BlueToff]

I agree. We need a few marquee signings but unfortunately it looks like we are haggling with the price and as a result are going to lose out.

we're basically agreeing mate but I;m not going to worry unless we get close to the start of the season.

We have our targets and it's pretty clear we've already moved on them. There's no indication that either of those moves (Mata or Witsel) aren't going to happen either, so just be patient.

Hopefully we get a statement signing in this week and that gets the ball rolling.

 

[willo30]

Surely if we have loads of money then we don't need to sell to balance the books.

We can only raise our wage bill by 7mil plus any revenue excluding TV money so we would have to sell to increase our wage bill.

We get 53mil for Stones then we can increase by 60mil (we won't though).

 

[Zatara]

Neither of those finished top six and yes while they are stronger, I don't think they have actually improved yet have they?

Liverpool have done their usual of spunking loads on an in-consistent player from the south coast, and brought in a defender who has been half-decent in Germany (in fact they're now signing another as well, who nearly got relegated with Augsburg...). They hammered a side that is possibly the worst-performing Everton team (at that time) I have ever witnessed - but a side that had totally lost faith in their manager.

Chelsea have signed Batshuayi who is a wildcard and while a good player, isn't going to win them the title. Kante is a very good signing.

Spurs have added two decent squad players...

Stop fretting about other sides. This is what's wrong with the game - fans expecting £100s of millions to be spent every summer on a load of players.

IT DOESN'T WORK!!!

We have a solid squad that has underperformed (something which is widely acknowledged).

If the price is right we'll sell a few and that will be reinvested in quality replacements, while we'll also go for players that will add to what we have and make our first team stronger.

Basically, what I'm saying is four players of top-quality (for example, Mata, Witsel, Patricio, Rolan and Koulibaly) would improve our first team massively. Spending £150mil on those five would be much better than spending £200mil on 10 squad players, IMO, just for the sake of signing somebody...

The top few sides we are meant to be competing with have improved to some degree though.

 

[BlueToff]

Very funny

It's true though Zat, we've signed a keeper on a cheap deal to come in and provide highly experienced competition, so it allows us more time to fully assess what keepers are available and at what price.

I'll only worry on that front if we haven't got one in by the end of the window.

 

[GerryandthePaceMerchants]

Outside of Chelsea and the Manchester clubs who have strengthened significantly? Liverpool have overspent on a Southampton player again and added a couple of unknowns, Spurs have spent big on a relatively rookie striker, Arsenal haven't done anything, West Ham can't even attract a player back they had on loan when they were rubbish and Southampton haven't really spent the Mane money yet.

Arsenal have signed Xaka - the kind of player they've needed
Palace have signed players which will improve them considerably (including the keeper we were supposedly linked with)
Spurs have a striker and Wanyama
Even 'Boro have made signings which will ensure they're no bums.

http://www.premierleague.com/news/61463

If we're looking to break the top 6 at league this season, and we can assume that Chelsea, United, City and Arsenal will comfortably finish above us we're looking to improve on our squad against Spurs and the RS. Both of whom had better squads then us last season, as the league positions stated, and both of whom who have signed players who will improve the over squad (RS replacing that clown and Spurs bumping their attacking and MF options)

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

What top club has he managed? A club in Portugal, a fading power in Spain?

Awesome. A real heavy hitter.

...if only he had the experience of playing for MOTHERWELL & WALSALL then he'd be the complete package.

Pity.

 

[The Esk]

Frankly Mr Esk, this sounds rather fanciful.

It's not fanciful though. If you speak to senior officials of other clubs there's a recognition that this sleeping giant is about to be awoke. History shows that at times we can compete financially with other clubs we win trophies.

We have the potential to break into the PL established elite and our peers are concerned rightly that we will do so.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Shame we're discussing what we hope will happen, and not really commenting on whether or not there should have been activity by now.

So you're telling me you hope we gut the whole team because unless we do it will be a Martinez repeat?

This is the exact same team we were praising in Bob's first year, and even then we knew we needed some additions. Now that we seem to actually be going for them people are getting angsty because it's been 2 weeks and we haven't signed 5 players yet?

Is this what money's done to us, seriously?