Farhad Moshiri

[billytoffee]

How quickly things change, people on here are actually debating how we might get around FFP, this place is morphing into RAWK.

This place will never be RAWK because it is not full of deluded halfwit Redtripe.

Much better to be debating cunning ways to get around FFP than selling copies of the Big Issue to fund a new ground - but I'm sure there are much greater and better informed minds than ours now looking at this - so I doubt it is something that we need to lose too much sleep over.

 

[billytoffee]

I think so but they had a new stadium to move into, we do not until one is build and it won't be this season.

Can we not simply have Goodison Park sponsored by ............. ? Until the new gaff is ready?

 

[1966efc]

This place will never be RAWK

I'm doing my best, for God's sake.

 

[PeterMeter]

Can we not simply have Goodison Park sponsored by ............. ? Until the new gaff is ready?

But it's alwaaaaays been called the Boleyn, no one calls it Upton Park. . .

 

[bluestevon]

Cumulative losses are examined over rolling 3 year periods (£105 million over three years). Cost control measures (no increase in salaries above £7 million without a corresponding increase in non broadcasting revenues) is annual.

Director appointments are more to do with group financing - stadium, commercial sponsorship - player trading and cost control regulations are relatively simple to manage.

Am i correct in assuming that any players loaned out by us, the loan fees will be included as a positive in our player trading foigures and their wages will be removed from our current total for these purposes?

Additionally IF say we looan a player in - and instead of paying a fee of say 2m and paying his wages of say 4m a year, we instead opted to pay a 6m loan fee with his wages being paid by his parent club (same overall financials for them) then this would in a way allow a club to bend around those premiership limits a little?

If as i believ it may be, then we could see a fair bit of loaning this season with set options to buy under those conditions...

 

[Sinski]

2012/13 wage bill was £63 million
2014/15 (last figures available) £77 million

Assuming 2015/16 was higher than 2014/15, we would use the 2015/16 figure plus £7 million.

Thanks for that. I would imagine 15/16 would be slightly higher so yeah it would be the 7mil I would think.

 

[The Esk]

Am i correct in assuming that any players loaned out by us, the loan fees will be included as a positive in our player trading foigures and their wages will be removed from our current total for these purposes?

Additionally IF say we looan a player in - and instead of paying a fee of say 2m and paying his wages of say 4m a year, we instead opted to pay a 6m loan fee with his wages being paid by his parent club (same overall financials for them) then this would in a way allow a club to bend around those premiership limits a little?

If as i believ it may be, then we could see a fair bit of loaning this season with set options to buy under those conditions...

Whilst possible mate, why would another club disadvantage itself to advantage us?

 

[bluestevon]

Whilst possible mate, why would another club disadvantage itself to advantage us?

to get a deal over the line mate, eepecially if the parent club isn't struggling with FFP rules themselves, other than that - a slightly higher overall payment would sweeten the deal no doubt

Also the cash up front rather than in the form of the parent club 'saving' on wages, allows the money to be reinvested into the squad straight away, not saying it's something that will happen, but can see the advantage from both sides of agreements like that in 'certain' situations

quick question to you mate, at what exact point is the calculation done re FFP rules in the premiership, as in is their a set date, as if their is it can obviously be maneuvered around, I was taking it that it is the end of the transfer window but thinking about that - it could easily be manipulated by clubs or is it something that is constantly evaluated and should a club ever breach it during the course of a season then they will suffer the penalties?

 

[Toffeelover]

Can we not simply have Goodison Park sponsored by ............. ? Until the new gaff is ready?

I am not the person to ask, better bet is to ask Farhad.

 

[blue61]

I am not the person to ask, better bet is to ask Farhad.

Or, failing that, Vic Reeves.

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

It depends if Lukaku / Stones stay. If they do, spending more than £50 million would be idiocy because we aren't that far from having a genuinely boss side and have loads of young players coming through.

that is a myth our squad is awful ( starting 11 is alright)

kone niasse mcgeady oviedo mccarthy 38 year old barry clevz joel 32 year old baines
34 year old jags lennon

are not champions league players

you are buying into this myth Martinez said about best squad in 30 years

we need to buy 5-8 new players for sure 50 mil is nothing troy deeny cost 20 mil ffs

 

[Matty_j1878]

that is a myth our squad is awful ( starting 11 is alright)

kone niasse mcgeady oviedo mccarthy 38 year old barry clevz joel 32 year old baines
34 year old jags lennon

are not champions league players

you are buying into this myth Martinez said about best squad in 30 years

we need to buy 5-8 new players for sure 50 mil is nothing troy deeny cost 20 mil ffs

Good job we're not in the champions league then isn't it mate

 

[Goat]

Our starting 11 lacks quality in certain areas, nevermind the squad.

We have no natural left winger and no natural number 8 in the entire squad, could even be very unkind and suggest the GK is lacking somewhat as well.

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

Good job we're not in the champions league then isn't it mate

surely thats our goal? highly doubt he will spend 50 mil probably closer to 100 the is too much dead wood

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

Our starting 11 lacks quality in certain areas, nevermind the squad.

We have no natural left winger and no natural number 8 in the entire squad, could even be very unkind and suggest the GK is lacking somewhat as well.

thank you we need new CB even with stones go get someone like van dijk and have mori / jags backup


GK new number one left winger and need a few more strikers