Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%
  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%
  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%
  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%

  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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also how did koeman get on in europe / in the cups too? pretty sure it wasn't that impressive.

Also i just saw that interview.. didn't win a game in ten and luckily turned it around in five games.

Souns awfully familiar.
 
Exactly this.

I reckon even Mourinho would struggle to get he current squad into the top 4. So it has to be a bloke who is good at spending cash and to be fair Koeman seems ok to good at that. Doesn't buy too many duds.

- Good record in market (check)
- Likes to play attractive football but has defensive nous (check)
Question for those like @BlueToff who are relatively upbeat about the possibility of Koeman, some questions for you:

1. What does Koeman bring to Everton that we need?
2. Do you think he'll retain those aspects of Martinez that we enjoyed? i.e. will there be some continuity?
3. Do you think he'll be able to bring some players with him and, if so, who would we benefit from?

1. Not meaning to be purposely vague, but he brings a balance. Our main critique of Bobby was his inability to learn from his mistakes. Koeman has shown in the past two seasons he is willing to adapt his style to win matches and, if needs be, will change a system completely. A perfect example is, with Forster out in the first half of the year, Sotton were looking fragile at the back. So he went to a back three to compensate. Forster came back a few games later and they kept like 8 clean sheets in 10 or something ridiculous like that. However, teams started to figure out a way to play against it so he then switched back to a back four and, after a shaky run of three or four games, they started to climb back up the table. For me, that's the sign of a good manager, and also lets not forget as a player he played at the very, very highest level, and was one of the best players in that Barca side - e.g. Big game experience.

2. I think so. I think De Boer would, but for me the Prem experience has changed Koeman in that he now knows you have to be more flexible. De Boer is stubborn, to a point where it is his major flaw, a bit like Bobby. Koeman also demands his sides to be first and foremost fit, and then organised. The attacking play is equally as focused, but it all has to start from the ground up. It's not the Moyes style of being overly cautious, or RM's style of either sitting on the edge of our 18 yard box or the edge of the opposition's 18-yard box, but it's a bit of both. They can thump City 4-2 one week, then the next they can go to (an albeit downcast Spurs but a side that still had something to play for and have battered better teams than Sotton this season) and do a job on them, playing nice stuff while been solid defensively (they conceded due to an error by Forster and that is it).

3. Yes, and i think he's a manager players respect automatically. Whether it would be enough to keep Lukaku, or maybe even Stones, we would have to see, but I think what this squad needs after Martinez's stubborness is a manager willing to adapt his game and who has done so in the past. De Boer, to me, doesn't seem that man - though if he came I would support him wholly. Koeman just seems the perfect fit for me. And yes, I think there's a chance he could attract some players, though it depends on whether or not Southampton get Europe.
 
I'm going to preface this reply with the fact that I definitely do not want Benitez anywhere near our club.

Newcastle are currently managed by a champions league winner who's previous job was Real Madrid. Shouldn't we be able to attract a similar calibre manager?
Absolutely.....with a similar £2m bonus if we stay in the Premier League!!!!
 

Last word from me tonight on this Koeman link.
He is wrong for us.
His assistant manager is wrong for us
The board endorsing this new management team would be ignoring our wishes and it,s ambition is at best a 6th place trophy with a cup run in us.
We blow millions on average players
We will blow millions on an average manager
He will be out of the club at the end of his contract.
Vault it and good night.
 
also how did koeman get on in europe / in the cups too? pretty sure it wasn't that impressive.

Also i just saw that interview.. didn't win a game in ten and luckily turned it around in five games.

Souns awfully familiar.

He turned it around because he changed his style. They're currently 7th, two points off Europe, having won 17 games, drawn 9 and lost 11. To put that into perspective, in RM's first season we won 21.
 
Emery is more moyes than Koeman is...

Again, never managed in the Prem. It is vital we have that experience, IMO, or at least very handy.

Also, as good as Sevilla are in the Europa, they are perennially 5th to 8th in La Liga. Now he's a top manager, but there's no guarantee he'd come in and do well. He'd be much more of a gamble, certainly...
Emery has outperformed expectations (with exception of his time in Russia) at every club he's managed over the last 10 years. He took over from Koeman's disastrous time at Valencia, got the players back on side, outperformed his results and kept Valencia in top 3 with a negative spend of -£63 million. Koeman's record before he came to the premier league was average, he's never outperformed expectations at any of his previous clubs. Emery is only 44 and has plenty of time to improve further. I'd take him over Koeman every day of the week.
 

Listened to talksport for a bit this afternoon, made my ears bleed, according to them our potential targets are Howe, Moyes, Hughes and Sean Dyche. Begrudgingly acknowledged De Boer being favourite in the betting. Can't wait until we sign Pellegrini, or De Boer, even Koeman would pipe everyone right down. Or of course Mourinho but I'll only whisper that one.
 
Last word from me tonight on this Koeman link.
He is wrong for us.
His assistant manager is wrong for us
The board endorsing this new management team would be ignoring our wishes and it,s ambition is at best a 6th place trophy with a cup run in us.
We blow millions on average players
We will blow millions on an average manager
He will be out of the club at the end of his contract.
Vault it and good night.


You really don't like him do you !
 
Last word from me tonight on this Koeman link.
He is wrong for us.
His assistant manager is wrong for us
The board endorsing this new management team would be ignoring our wishes and it,s ambition is at best a 6th place trophy with a cup run in us.
We blow millions on average players
We will blow millions on an average manager
He will be out of the club at the end of his contract.
Vault it and good night.

And I was in such a good mood after today's events. Pass the prozac someone......
 

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