Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

That is the worrying thing all round if there is any credible source of him staying. the players are already going through the motions right now, imagine come august if they are still disillusioned about it all?

I would wager that if martinez was still our manager come summer time that a few players would push for moves away to get away from him.

If Martinez is still manager come summer time, I'm not renewing my season ticket

In fact, I'm going to email the club and make that clear

Others who feel the same should do likewise

 

[BernieWright13]

Just been told by a friend of a friend allegedly ITK that he wont be going until 2nd June because of the compo that others have mentioned - £2m. No idea whether this is accurate but hoping to high heaven it aint

 

[Ashtonian]

@Moomin
Nice vaulting bud, except you vaulted me at the end of a record breaking season in terms of points.

Vaulting doesn't work when the posts are encouraged by success mate, back then there was no warning signs,

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Id rather contract ebola than see that ginger ballbag anywhere near us

Succinct and accurate.

 

[sageyefc]

@Moomin i regret nothing

 

[Zezti]

Just been told by a friend of a friend allegedly ITK that he wont be going until 2nd June because of the compo that others have mentioned - £2m. No idea whether this is accurate but hoping to high heaven it aint

BRB, making plans for street party on 2nd of June

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Just been told by a friend of a friend allegedly ITK that he wont be going until 2nd June because of the compo that others have mentioned - £2m. No idea whether this is accurate but hoping to high heaven it aint

Welcome to 24 hours ago, buddy.

 

[ikahsiv]

Every day that he is here leeches happiness out of me. Keep feeding us tidbits @TheEsk, its about the only thing thats keeping me going here with the club situation.

 

[adrian]

i don't want him out as much as some other people to be honest...even though i thought he was a bad appointment originally. Martinez is one of the good guys...a likeable kind of a charachter whose just had a bad run. A couple of injuries and alot of confidence sapping last minute defeats have us where we are. off the top of my head - Bournmouth, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke, Norwich & west ham (there could be more) - all games where we conceded late to drop points from winning positions. hold on for a win in even half of them and we are well up the table. I think his problem in those game is his reluctance to close up shop - i can never remember him making a defensive substitution.

In fairness, apart from Niasse most of his signings have been good. So with a bit of money this summer he might be able to bring in some top quality & surely will have learned from this season - I know i'm gonna be killed on here for this but he could so all right next year!!

 

[D410]

Just been told by a friend of a friend allegedly ITK that he wont be going until 2nd June because of the compo that others have mentioned - £2m. No idea whether this is accurate but hoping to high heaven it aint

£2m - £13.5m for the duffer from Russia.

 

[BernieWright13]

Welcome to 24 hours ago, buddy.

Cheers for the sarcasm 'buddy'. I was on 24 hours ago and saw it too. I've heard it from another unconnected source now as well. But like I say, I have no more idea than you whether it's true so make of it what you will. Or don't.

 

[Little Ralphy]

i don't want him out as much as some other people to be honest...even though i thought he was a bad appointment originally. Martinez is one of the good guys...a likeable kind of a charachter whose just had a bad run. A couple of injuries and alot of confidence sapping last minute defeats have us where we are. off the top of my head - Bournmouth, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke, Norwich & west ham (there could be more) - all games where we conceded late to drop points from winning positions. hold on for a win in even half of them and we are well up the table. I think his problem in those game is his reluctance to close up shop - i can never remember him making a defensive substitution.

In fairness, apart from Niasse most of his signings have been good. So with a bit of money this summer he might be able to bring in some top quality & surely will have learned from this season - I know i'm gonna be killed on here for this but he could so all right next year!!

What was the excuse for last season then?

 

[COYBL25]

i don't want him out as much as some other people to be honest...even though i thought he was a bad appointment originally. Martinez is one of the good guys...a likeable kind of a charachter whose just had a bad run. A couple of injuries and alot of confidence sapping last minute defeats have us where we are. off the top of my head - Bournmouth, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke, Norwich & west ham (there could be more) - all games where we conceded late to drop points from winning positions. hold on for a win in even half of them and we are well up the table. I think his problem in those game is his reluctance to close up shop - i can never remember him making a defensive substitution.

In fairness, apart from Niasse most of his signings have been good. So with a bit of money this summer he might be able to bring in some top quality & surely will have learned from this season - I know i'm gonna be killed on here for this but he could so all right next year!!

STOP IT NOW

BAN

TIME FOR BED

 

[blueblue]

I am not convinced that RM will be leaving at all. Bill Kenwright is very loyal to his managers and may see two cup semi finals as progress.
The key question is if Moshiri agrees with him or at least is prepared to back his judgement.

Was there a lot of visible unrest against RM before , during or after the game at Wembley on Saturday ?
Forums such as this are not good barometers about what is likely to happen.

However, I do think that RM owes the fanbase some honesty if it is decided that he is to stay.
Yes, he can point out the positives about the young players in the academy and in the first team squad.

But, he needs to talk honestly about the scandalous performances on occasions and the continuing inability to defend or protect a lead.
Supporters are not stupid... at least not all of them, if a reasoned explanation is given it will be considered.
But, don't make it seem as if we are on the verge of something great when clearly we are not.

Why, are we leaking goals like a sieve ? Is it because players are not doing their job, are not working hard enough or is there a flaw in the layout of the team.
Do we have the correct coaching staff at the club, should changes be made and a defensive coach brought in ?
Are certain players not putting in the effort needed. Why was Tim Howard left in the team for so long , when clearly he wasn't good enough while Robles was left sit on the bench although it is crystal clear now that he is the better keeper.

Maybe , you will be staying Roberto and I will accept that, but to quote a line from a film called "Missouri breaks" don't pis down my back and tell me it is raining, give us some real reasons why you should be allowed to stay.

I understand the manager won't talk about individual players, but this has been a very very poor season and it needs to be explained or else leave.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

i don't want him out as much as some other people to be honest...even though i thought he was a bad appointment originally. Martinez is one of the good guys...a likeable kind of a charachter whose just had a bad run. A couple of injuries and alot of confidence sapping last minute defeats have us where we are. off the top of my head - Bournmouth, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke, Norwich & west ham (there could be more) - all games where we conceded late to drop points from winning positions. hold on for a win in even half of them and we are well up the table. I think his problem in those game is his reluctance to close up shop - i can never remember him making a defensive substitution.

In fairness, apart from Niasse most of his signings have been good. So with a bit of money this summer he might be able to bring in some top quality & surely will have learned from this season - I know i'm gonna be killed on here for this but he could so all right next year!!

He signed McGeady.

We said last year - me included - that it could be alright this year, but it's too late now. He was lucky to get one more chance, and now it's time to go.

You don't get that many last minute defeats/draws by coincidence.