Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[1966efc]

I've got to disagree with the people who opt for the "mutual" bit.

As a statement of intent for the future ... that failure won't be tolerated ... he should be booted out without ceremony.

 

[The Esk]

This is something I've found strange about the situation - Moyes was never really under this sort of pressure, so maybe the club doesn't know how to react in this situation, most teams come out with a statement from the Chairman / Owner stating how they trust the manager for the future.

Or it's because they have no faith in him and don't want to make a statement...


I think this silence is deafening and it's only a matter of time, I can only assume Moshiri would like an instant handover rather than something of a limbo situation, possibly to stop outside sources getting at players like Lukaku and Stones while there is no one in place.

All good points mate, personally Martinez is now damaging himself with these comments, it's unprofessional and undignified. It certainly will not help his cause at Board and shareholder levels, nor with players and fans.

 

[faddy the blue]

With about 80% of fans (as per this forum) wanting a manager out, I don't think Bill can justify Martinez's reign cos he's a 'wonderful' person. Its hard to win back 80% of your fan base. The 2nd half performance of the semi apart, how can Roberto justify the 4 home wins all season as 'developing'?

Lets end his reign smoothly before it gets uglier. The scenes at the end of season lap of honor would be an embarrassment to Roberto and to Bill.

 

[Blue Cheese]

It's Monday morning, is he still here, not good enough Everton.

 

[Timak]

“I just want to believe, with the work I have done for the last three years, there are signs there that we are getting close to challenging for silverware and whereEverton should be,” he said. “We developed young players, gave them big roles and they reacted, and showed character, flair and drive in the biggest football arena.

“In the first season we had a [club] record number of points in the Premier League and in the second the experience of Europe. We gave young players big roles and have not invested money but managed assets. We were very unfairly stopped from being in the League Cup final and that never stopped us wanting to come to Wembley. There are signs in the three years I could have earned the opportunity to drive the club forward and I am sure we can fulfil our expectations. I am very much attached to it.”

Martínez said that with the backing of Moshiri he will be able to take the club to heights not reached for years. “The introduction of the new shareholder brings a different approach to the new squad. We have the finances to compete with anyone within the fair play rules. That can only be a help. I see it no other way.

“The difficulty is building a squad without the money other teams have while they are fighting for the same aims you have. The arrival of the new shareholder is terrific, positive news for the future and helps you build squads.

“Clearly, at the end of the season we will need to make big moves and make sure we start the season with a strong team that is ready to fight and play the way we have to play. [Moshiri’s] vision is to become a winning team and bring Everton to where we all want it. That goes into the footballing style. It is a shared vision.” Asked how certain he was that he would still be Everton’s manager come the summer, Martínez replied: “You’re asking the wrong man.”

The Spaniard said he took heart from the experiences of Everton’s two-time title-winning manager, the late Howard Kendall, and also from the team’s second-half improvement at Wembley, which might not have been fruitless if Romelu Lukaku had not had a penalty saved by David de Gea before Chris Smalling equalised with an own goal and Anthony Martial inflicted a killer blow in stoppage time.

“I draw inspiration from big, big figures from our football club – and no one more than Howard Kendall, who always said as a football club we react in the best possible way,” Martínez said, determined to remain positive. “Facing adversity [against United] our second‑half performance is exactly that. It was as dominant as you could see in a semi-final against a team like Manchester United.

“Without being at our best we could not get into the rhythm in the first half and we showed incredible maturity and mental strength to dig in. The second half is us – confidence, belief and fast football with attacking threat. We missed a penalty and it never affected us. Conceding in injury time is a major blow that we did not deserve. I was pleased the players represented our football club in a way we know they can in the second half. They enjoyed their football.”

 

[matty1878]

“I just want to believe, with the work I have done for the last three years, there are signs there that we are getting close to challenging for silverware and whereEverton should be,” he said. “We developed young players, gave them big roles and they reacted, and showed character, flair and drive in the biggest football arena.

“In the first season we had a [club] record number of points in the Premier League and in the second the experience of Europe. We gave young players big roles and have not invested money but managed assets. We were very unfairly stopped from being in the League Cup final and that never stopped us wanting to come to Wembley. There are signs in the three years I could have earned the opportunity to drive the club forward and I am sure we can fulfil our expectations. I am very much attached to it.”

Martínez said that with the backing of Moshiri he will be able to take the club to heights not reached for years. “The introduction of the new shareholder brings a different approach to the new squad. We have the finances to compete with anyone within the fair play rules. That can only be a help. I see it no other way.

“The difficulty is building a squad without the money other teams have while they are fighting for the same aims you have. The arrival of the new shareholder is terrific, positive news for the future and helps you build squads.

“Clearly, at the end of the season we will need to make big moves and make sure we start the season with a strong team that is ready to fight and play the way we have to play. [Moshiri’s] vision is to become a winning team and bring Everton to where we all want it. That goes into the footballing style. It is a shared vision.” Asked how certain he was that he would still be Everton’s manager come the summer, Martínez replied: “You’re asking the wrong man.”

The Spaniard said he took heart from the experiences of Everton’s two-time title-winning manager, the late Howard Kendall, and also from the team’s second-half improvement at Wembley, which might not have been fruitless if Romelu Lukaku had not had a penalty saved by David de Gea before Chris Smalling equalised with an own goal and Anthony Martial inflicted a killer blow in stoppage time.

“I draw inspiration from big, big figures from our football club – and no one more than Howard Kendall, who always said as a football club we react in the best possible way,” Martínez said, determined to remain positive. “Facing adversity [against United] our second‑half performance is exactly that. It was as dominant as you could see in a semi-final against a team like Manchester United.

“Without being at our best we could not get into the rhythm in the first half and we showed incredible maturity and mental strength to dig in. The second half is us – confidence, belief and fast football with attacking threat. We missed a penalty and it never affected us. Conceding in injury time is a major blow that we did not deserve. I was pleased the players represented our football club in a way we know they can in the second half. They enjoyed their football.”

He isn't a well man. I mean like wtf what the actual ef.

 

[jazzy]

Is there white smoke over Goodison yet ?

 

[Ashtonian]

Actually, it's just an article that contrasts with the majority of opinion.

I'd say the media has been pretty solid in its recent criticism of Martinez. I don't really know what you expect?

I expect nothing less

Either the media run stories or how terrible Martinez is or they run stories thst in fact he is unlucky/bad run/can turn it around /best for the club.

When Rodger s was sacked, where was the testimonies for him to be kept? Or Jose? Or van gaal now?

 

[Professor Toffee]

Is there white smoke over Goodison yet ?

hope theyre just firing him, not cremating him!

 

[jazzy]

“I just want to believe, with the work I have done for the last three years, there are signs there that we are getting close to challenging for silverware and whereEverton should be,” he said. “We developed young players, gave them big roles and they reacted, and showed character, flair and drive in the biggest football arena.

“In the first season we had a [club] record number of points in the Premier League and in the second the experience of Europe. We gave young players big roles and have not invested money but managed assets. We were very unfairly stopped from being in the League Cup final and that never stopped us wanting to come to Wembley. There are signs in the three years I could have earned the opportunity to drive the club forward and I am sure we can fulfil our expectations. I am very much attached to it.”

Martínez said that with the backing of Moshiri he will be able to take the club to heights not reached for years. “The introduction of the new shareholder brings a different approach to the new squad. We have the finances to compete with anyone within the fair play rules. That can only be a help. I see it no other way.

“The difficulty is building a squad without the money other teams have while they are fighting for the same aims you have. The arrival of the new shareholder is terrific, positive news for the future and helps you build squads.

“Clearly, at the end of the season we will need to make big moves and make sure we start the season with a strong team that is ready to fight and play the way we have to play. [Moshiri’s] vision is to become a winning team and bring Everton to where we all want it. That goes into the footballing style. It is a shared vision.” Asked how certain he was that he would still be Everton’s manager come the summer, Martínez replied: “You’re asking the wrong man.”

The Spaniard said he took heart from the experiences of Everton’s two-time title-winning manager, the late Howard Kendall, and also from the team’s second-half improvement at Wembley, which might not have been fruitless if Romelu Lukaku had not had a penalty saved by David de Gea before Chris Smalling equalised with an own goal and Anthony Martial inflicted a killer blow in stoppage time.

“I draw inspiration from big, big figures from our football club – and no one more than Howard Kendall, who always said as a football club we react in the best possible way,” Martínez said, determined to remain positive. “Facing adversity [against United] our second‑half performance is exactly that. It was as dominant as you could see in a semi-final against a team like Manchester United.

“Without being at our best we could not get into the rhythm in the first half and we showed incredible maturity and mental strength to dig in. The second half is us – confidence, belief and fast football with attacking threat. We missed a penalty and it never affected us. Conceding in injury time is a major blow that we did not deserve. I was pleased the players represented our football club in a way we know they can in the second half. They enjoyed their football.”

His level of delusion just gets worse.

How the hell are we developing ? We are going backwards.

And about the semi on Saturday did he not watch that shambolic first half caused by his selections and tactics,

He NEVER takes responsibility - not once has he said "it was my fault I got this wrong".

Just get out now, if you don't next Saturday will be a terrible experience for you

 

[jazzy]

"Building the squad without the money that other teams have had" - it would help if you didn't waste £13.5 million on a striker who you won't play.

 

[jazzy]

"clearly at the end of the season we need to make big moves " - YES starting with you.

 

[helpimonfire]

News Conference today

Moshi, Bill and Roberto sitting at table.

Bill..... We are happy to announce Roberto has signed a new 25 year deal and we are certain that he will bring the club lots of Tapas. ...Erm,I meant trophies not tapas, honest.

Roberto.... Si

Moshi.... Behave Bill ya tit lad.(been practising his Scouse) This goon is getting sacked right now

Bill..... But Moshi, he is the nicest bloke ever and I love him and dream of him lying on a Catalan beach all oiled up. He is what Everton need.

Roberto.... Si

Moshi.... Bobby lad, get your bags and do one. We need a football manager here not a brown shoe biff.

Roberto.... Si

Bill..... Now hold on Moshi. I am the chairman, what I say goes. I am the greatest Evertonian of all time, I am bigger than Everton itself.

Roberto....... Si

Moshi....... Security, throw this blurt out as well and never allow either of them back in again.

Then Vitor burst in on a white horse

Doubt it will happen, but it is trending on twitter.

 

[john jako]

Just woke up. He's still here. Not suprised

 

[kithnou]

Just woke up. He's still here. Not suprised

these things don't usually happen when people sleep you know