Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Hong Kong Phooey]

I really don't want a stay of execution for Martinez. I want him to go straight away so I can be sure the board are doing something about getting a replacement in. The quicker it all gets sorted the more chance the new manager will have next season.

Definitely this. Some are saying "what's the point doing it now wait until the end of the season".

Sorry but that's the wrong thing to do IMO. There's so much a new man needs to do and needs as much time as possible.

He will have his own ideas on pre-season, training camps, quality of opposition, number of games, etc etc.

More importantly is the playing side of things. It makes sense for a new man to work with the current crop of players for a few weeks, watch them in training and then in the last few games to get a clearer idea of strengths and weaknesses in the squad prior to where he wants to strengthen in the summer.

A replacement maybe employed elsewhere and wouldn't be able to come in straight away a la Moyes at the end for us, but just like Moyes, he would still be able to do some planning with us whilst seeing out the season elsewhere.

There's so much for a new manager to do. Most importantly, it would be good for us supporters to know exactly what is going on regarding Martinez without having to be left on tenterhooks for another few weeks.

 

[macdog]

Unsworth for me. Blue through and through.

 

[sussex blue]

Definitely this. Some are saying "what's the point doing it now wait until the end of the season".

Sorry but that's the wrong thing to do IMO. There's so much a new man needs to do and needs as much time as possible.

He will have his own ideas on pre-season, training camps, quality of opposition, number of games, etc etc.

More importantly is the playing side of things. It makes sense for a new man to work with the current crop of players for a few weeks, watch them in training and then in the last few games to get a clearer idea of strengths and weaknesses in the squad prior to where he wants to strengthen in the summer.

A replacement maybe employed elsewhere and wouldn't be able to come in straight away a la Moyes at the end for us, but just like Moyes, he would still be able to do some planning with us whilst seeing out the season elsewhere.

There's so much for a new manager to do. Most importantly, it would be good for us supporters to know exactly what is going on regarding Martinez without having to be left on tenterhooks for another few weeks.

I see what you're saying but if he was sacked tomorrow it is unlikely that we would get in a new permanent manager before the end of the season anyway. We would probably have a temp manager from within the club to take us through the final few games and then spend time finding a new manager over the summer. The advantages you speak of probably wouldn't be realised.

 

[Bluebonic]

Does that mean you disagree with the first point? Just wondering.

IMO, Moyes had sides that could have done what Leicester have pulled off...sadly the man wasn't good enough to take things to the next level. I think folks have rated our current squad on potential versus actual ability.

I agree with the caveat you yourself gave, Moyes ultimately lacked the courage of his convictions! He didnt really believe we could take that step up and i think that ultimately held him and us back!

 

[strummer]

I don't want him to go through the humiliation of the lynch mob at the next home game so he should go as soon as possible. I wanted him to succeed but he's clearly out of his depth. The most damming failure for me is only having 1 competent striker at the club. Surely a first in our long history

 

[Hong Kong Phooey]

Imagine his pre Bournemouth press conference.

'Phenomenal cup adventure'

'Get as many points as possible till the end of the season'

Blah blah blah

Stop it!

 

[Adscum]

I don't want him to go through the humiliation of the lynch mob at the next home game so he should go as soon as possible. I wanted him to succeed but he's clearly out of his depth. The most damming failure for me is only having 1 competent striker at the club. Surely a first in our long history

That's it for me too, mate. Why draw out the agony for Roberto as much as anything else. He'll be well aware he's on the way out. The humane thing to do is make it quick and painless.

 

[Axlswhk]

I'm sure the fraud is hanging around for his dismissal compensation. Couple of millions perhaps? That could be the reason with coming up with a pathetic excuse for being a right man for the job.

 

[rochdaleblue]

I don't want him to go through the humiliation of the lynch mob at the next home game so he should go as soon as possible. I wanted him to succeed but he's clearly out of his depth. The most damming failure for me is only having 1 competent striker at the club. Surely a first in our long history

This 100%. If he had any sense he should resign before next week. The talk of 'progress' over the last 3 years in his press conference after the match, shows the man has lost touch with reality.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

 

[Ashtonian]

Still can't believe he claimed the club haven't invested any money as a reason as to why we are performing so badly. It's laughable really.

I'm sorry Roberto, thst 28 million pound striker, 9 million pound defender and 13 5 million pound midfielder not exist then? Or the 13 million pound striker you aren't playing not bought with money?

Be interesting to know considering he hasn't had to sell players how long it took Moyes to spend a similar amount of money

 

[strummer]

This 100%. If he had any sense he should resign before next week. The talk of 'progress' over the last 3 years in his press conference after the match, shows the man has lost touch with reality.

He's always spoke crap mate but I could forgive him because English is his 2nd language. It's now got to the point though that I see him or hear him talking I turn it off straight away.

 

[Ashtonian]

That confirms he is going. No mention of him as a manager, response talking about his personality instead

 

[Mogwai]

 

[flibbyflob]

So is the grim reaper going to appear in the stand next week like he did when we beat Moyes United?