Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

  • In

  • Out

  • Getting splinters eating cheese on toast on the fence

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Roberto In Out
Jose In Out
Manuel In Out

Sounds like some sort of continental version of the Hokey Cokey!


or the warm up for a low budget porn film!
 


neil999 said:
i guess he could be using us to get utd to show their hand or whatever
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This all over. We shouldn't do this to ourselves - IF there's anything to the rumours, it's only because he's playing us off to ensure his dream job at United. He WILL NOT end up with us. Vault me.
 
maccavennie said:
Can't really argue with any of that.

I know this sounds strange as well but I actually think Everton would be a good fit for him. I think he will be still stung and hurting by the way it all unravelled so quickly at Chelsea.
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At United
No matter what he wins will he be even remotely regarded as on par with Busby or Ferguson - not a chance on earth - especially if he's their for 3-4 years or so.
Right now if he bombed out at United then he would be almost finished as far as top clubs went - and that united side is a total mess right now and the boardroom should they appoint him will be fractured to bits.
He will have people actively working against him from day one in both the media and in the actual club.
He will always be remembered as the manager of their rivals by a lot of the die hard mancs, much like Rooney will never be fully accepted by them as he is a scouser.
Pressure from day 1 to succeed, any success will be seen as 'well it's united and they should win things'
Will be taking over a team that on talent is perfomring at the level it should

At Everton
Has a chance should he want to be regarded right up their with the best who ever managed us.
Any success will be seenas an amazing achievement and proof he is the best of his generation.
Will have a unified board behind him and with a actual football man in charge with Moshiri.
Will have less of a pressure cooker and wll be given time by the fans, the media and the board
Will be taking over a team that on talent is massively underperforming, just by being competent he will see us improve a huge amount in performance
Any failiure to turn us around will be chalked off by the media due to us not being regarded as a team that 'should' be winning things, so will hardly harm his future prospects
 

Ashtonian said:
aye that would be right. Especially from the have moyes back atittude to a suddenly 'woah' whats happening here response.

you are almost making me want Jose as first choice here mate haha I can accept a convincing argument.

I think that is something i would look forward to in the future, mourinhio does seem to have an eye for talent when signing players, and it would only take one to turn the side so to speak. Like kante at the leaders now, already being sold to x amount of clubs, i would imagine with a jose here, he wouldn't experience that .
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Mate IF you could write 2 dream scenarios for mEverton, 1 would have been an owener who actually understands football, was ambitious and who had the connections and finances to realize that ambition - we now have that it looks like

Second would be a Manager who has ambition, is a winner, who could take us to another level completely both on and off the field and finally break the plucky little everton media stereotype, who effectively smashes the glass ceiling on where we should aim to be as a club to actual bits - Mourinho is the only manager who would do that immediately

Varane at Madrid was brought into the first team by Mourinho and trusted mate, no doubt about that he would do the same with Stones, the popcorning he would do to the media alone about players leaving would be gold.

Generally a good rule of thumb about anything is that if the media want you to think a certain way the its better to think the exact opposite, they wouldn't want us to have him - makes me want him more
 
bluestevon said:
At United
No matter what he wins will he be even remotely regarded as on par with Busby or Ferguson - not a chance on earth - especially if he's their for 3-4 years or so.
Right now if he bombed out at United then he would be almost finished as far as top clubs went - and that united side is a total mess right now and the boardroom should they appoint him will be fractured to bits.
He will have people actively working against him from day one in both the media and in the actual club.
He will always be remembered as the manager of their rivals by a lot of the die hard mancs, much like Rooney will never be fully accepted by them as he is a scouser.
Pressure from day 1 to succeed, any success will be seen as 'well it's united and they should win things'
Will be taking over a team that on talent is perfomring at the level it should

At Everton
Has a chance should he want to be regarded right up their with the best who ever managed us.
Any success will be seenas an amazing achievement and proof he is the best of his generation.
Will have a unified board behind him and with a actual football man in charge with Moshiri.
Will have less of a pressure cooker and wll be given time by the fans, the media and the board
Will be taking over a team that on talent is massively underperforming, just by being competent he will see us improve a huge amount in performance
Any failiure to turn us around will be chalked off by the media due to us not being regarded as a team that 'should' be winning things, so will hardly harm his future prospects
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I'm in mate. I thought long and hard about what we need for our next manager. We all agree we need a winner, we need someone who makes everyone sit up and take notice. We need someone who gets results, we need someone who will give us all a massive lift.

I like Pellegrini, I think he's acquired himself very well since it was confirmed Pep was taking over so he would be another option. But whilst Mourinho is still available we should be taking a firm interest in seeing if he wants to come to us and I wouldn't be surprised if that's already happened.

Put it this way, if Moshiri was in charge of Arsenal and they had another season of failure ( in their terms ) and Wenger left, you could pretty much better your last dollar he would be straight in for him, so why can't we.
 
bflefc said:
This all over. We shouldn't do this to ourselves - IF there's anything to the rumours, it's only because he's playing us off to ensure his dream job at United. He WILL NOT end up with us. Vault me.
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If it's an ego pressure situation there's no way utd would make an appointment like that, it would backfire on Mourinho that sort of behaviour. He would already be a contentious choice, they wouldn't take that big a risk of allowing a potential manager to dictate decisions.
 

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