kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
I fear for your health if after today's meeting he is given a public vote of confidence.
Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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lol mate I expect 5 year contract extension so
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
The loss of hope with Mr Moshiri would be far greater than the thought of the extension were that to eventuate.
If after this meeting Martinez is still manager I expect more crap performances and a limp over the finish line.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
From the outside looking in, if you'd just taken over a club and wanted to pass on info to the fan base and gauge the feeling generally, you'd hire someone to do that role, and if they had a brain they'd look at the biggest Everton forum out their and analyse who they regarded as 1. trustworthy to pass on only what you asked - even though you'd share more 2. informed on the general feeling/mood and desires of the fan base - in other words someone who 'GETS' Everton 3. balanced and intelligent/mature. 4. non reactionary. If you did that what name would you have come up with to make contact with and pass little bits on mate?
I know for me one name would stand out quite clearly
P.S. Oh and someone who has a very positive outlook towards the new owners and had such from early on by analysing the situation and showing a lot of knowledge on the subject
1966efc
Player Valuation: £20m
And someone who wasn't looking for a grassy knoll on Martinez' route to work.
So that's me out.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Mate that grassy knoll would be utterly packed, think i will go into the book reposatory alongside @ianefc
He never was mate, he couldn't manage his was out if a phone box.
Elong
The fire rises
I reckon he manages better than you type like lol
I've got an excuse, I'm on my phone. Bobby is out of excuses.
*checks spelling and proof reads post
Elong
The fire rises
Bobby has a thousand excuses, don't you listen to the press conferences and after match interviews?
Ashtonian
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My thoughts from last night;
1. Tactically martinez is terrible. starting Kone in a role he dropped him out of for being ineffective a few months ago, before going back to that tactic is just signs that he has no other way of playing. The tactic doesn't work because Kone spends his time going centrally, leaving a huge gap on the left hand side. This then limits baines role in the team because he has to then cover the space, meaning he cannot get forward as much as he should be. How after so long of this tactic not working, can martinez just decide to change things?
2. Not resting players. See here is a thought more than anything else. We play 4 games in what 9/10 days? Luakaku and ross will play in all of them, why? People question why these players are innefective or not looking interested yet they play 90 minutes every week without any time off, considering they are young, that takes its toll surely? Last night would have been a perfect time to rest rom ahead of tougher games, instead he will be asked to perform that role another 3 times by next weekend, so when he turns up at wembley looking a little 'cant be arsed', that's why.
3. The standards have dropped so much, from not needing to defend a lead vs west ham to hanging on against a side who is amazingly worse than us was shocking. we should be beating palace even with 10 men, we did it against a much better west ham, so why does the team then have to put everyone behind the ball against a team who for all intents and purposes may not have scored even if they were still playing? apart from one counter, we had nothing going forward after that, not suprising really.
4. 2 years ago palace beat us to hamper our chances of 4th, the fact that we were hanging onto a draw against them to stop going 15th should tell you all you need to know about how the future pans out for us now. the good thing is that this is ending his time here, but at the same time, i wanted us to show something a little more passion or fight to the game, not fear.
Overall i dont think the red card should have made a difference, it didnt a month ago so why now? It is games like this that amaze me how bad we really are, 3 wingers on bench and choose to play none, ask lukaku to essentially take on the whole defence by himself with no-one near him by the second half, no resting of key players ahead of bigger games to play, not changing tactics to suit the team, just not playing with any passion.
I had a little conversation on here before the game about not caring about the result, then we get to see that. That is why i don't care about the game right now, its just going through motions, its players just not wanting to get injured before the summer now, the ones in the shop window are there already even if they play badly. I just think that despite all of the negativity or positiveity you can have now about cups, the biggest harming factor will be the fact the same team and players are playing every single game without breaks even in April so even if Martinez gets it spot on in the semi final, chances are the team will be knackered by the end of it to even be able to keep up with united.
they are my thoughts anyway, also McCarthys first red card in 200 or so games, thats not quite the same as mirallas 2 red cards this season alone.
1. Tactically martinez is terrible. starting Kone in a role he dropped him out of for being ineffective a few months ago, before going back to that tactic is just signs that he has no other way of playing. The tactic doesn't work because Kone spends his time going centrally, leaving a huge gap on the left hand side. This then limits baines role in the team because he has to then cover the space, meaning he cannot get forward as much as he should be. How after so long of this tactic not working, can martinez just decide to change things?
2. Not resting players. See here is a thought more than anything else. We play 4 games in what 9/10 days? Luakaku and ross will play in all of them, why? People question why these players are innefective or not looking interested yet they play 90 minutes every week without any time off, considering they are young, that takes its toll surely? Last night would have been a perfect time to rest rom ahead of tougher games, instead he will be asked to perform that role another 3 times by next weekend, so when he turns up at wembley looking a little 'cant be arsed', that's why.
3. The standards have dropped so much, from not needing to defend a lead vs west ham to hanging on against a side who is amazingly worse than us was shocking. we should be beating palace even with 10 men, we did it against a much better west ham, so why does the team then have to put everyone behind the ball against a team who for all intents and purposes may not have scored even if they were still playing? apart from one counter, we had nothing going forward after that, not suprising really.
4. 2 years ago palace beat us to hamper our chances of 4th, the fact that we were hanging onto a draw against them to stop going 15th should tell you all you need to know about how the future pans out for us now. the good thing is that this is ending his time here, but at the same time, i wanted us to show something a little more passion or fight to the game, not fear.
Overall i dont think the red card should have made a difference, it didnt a month ago so why now? It is games like this that amaze me how bad we really are, 3 wingers on bench and choose to play none, ask lukaku to essentially take on the whole defence by himself with no-one near him by the second half, no resting of key players ahead of bigger games to play, not changing tactics to suit the team, just not playing with any passion.
I had a little conversation on here before the game about not caring about the result, then we get to see that. That is why i don't care about the game right now, its just going through motions, its players just not wanting to get injured before the summer now, the ones in the shop window are there already even if they play badly. I just think that despite all of the negativity or positiveity you can have now about cups, the biggest harming factor will be the fact the same team and players are playing every single game without breaks even in April so even if Martinez gets it spot on in the semi final, chances are the team will be knackered by the end of it to even be able to keep up with united.
they are my thoughts anyway, also McCarthys first red card in 200 or so games, thats not quite the same as mirallas 2 red cards this season alone.
Maybe. But that makes it below par for your average football manager.
My mate told me that Tranmere players used to openly laugh at Johnny King (RIP) when he was giving team talks. That's their most successful manager.
Huge chunk of our fanbase want a manager who calls himself 'the special one'. That would have you marked down as a potential serial killer in different circumstances.
Best not to listen to any of them.
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
We've stopped scoring goals mate. Lukakus last goal was vs Chelsea wasn't it? Kone is his bezzie, there is chemistry between them and bar a few stray passes, he had a decent game last night.
Baines has been lost in attacking sense all season no matter who plays ahead of him because NO ONE from the wide players passes the ball to him. The only one who seems to get how good Baines is is Barry who, btw, was excellent AGAIN last night.
Who would you replace them with? Remember, we don't have the billions of Mosh to spend yet. Our squad is threadbare in the striking positions and attacking central midfield areas.
You're right, they were both dreadful last night by their standards however Ross still nearly scored with a trademark long ranger.
It would be daft to drop the pair of them for a rest when we all want to AT LEAST finish in the top ten.
Its confidence. With every lead that has slipped, every poor performance, the season end becomes closer and the inevitability of a poor seasons finish grows. Their heads drop, the spring disappears.
It happens to EVERY team mate. I'd it Aj excuse? Absolutely not. Is it understandable? Absolutely. The players aren't idiots. The FA Cup really is everything now, and there is nothing RM can say that's going to make them think otherwise.
We are showing a lack of confidence and quality, not fear imo. We still get the ball down, we still try and play even if it's drab. That's not a sign of fear.
It not making a difference is the exception. Logically having one player less than the opposition does make a difference mate, of course it does.
As soon as JMc got injured, a point was a good result.
Hopefully we will get 3 on Saturday.
Nothing has changed or is changing so he's got to be sacked
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