Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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stretford blue said:
At the start of the season most people would have jumped at winning the FA Cup .And winning the cup buys martinez time whether people like or not same as it bought fergie time in 1990 ,imagine any manager coming in after the previous manager had been sacked when he had just won the fa cup . Yes the league form especially at home has been a disaster ,and we should be up there challenging for the cl spots but winning trophies surely is high on peoples priorities .to hear some evertonians say they would rather lose some games to get the manager the sack beggars belief.
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....I suspect we are in a different ball game with Moshiri. Winning a cup might not be seen as enough progress if it aligns with a dreadful league performance and disenchanted fans. Pelligrini has won a domestic trophy and is still in the Champions League but already knows his P45 is in the post.
 

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
I don't think Royle is the answer to be honest

How long has it been since he managed at a high level?

For whatever reason, the players seem to turn up for Martinez in the Cup games still

The League is what it is, so I don't see much point in dropping Martinez until the Cup run comes to its conclusion
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I'm talking hyperthetically I also said if we don't win either of the next 2. It's not long term, just to see us through to the end of the season. He HAS to be better than Martinez, doesn't he? If he didn't work at the club today it wouldn't of crossed my mind, the link is that he is at the club day in day out, also he won the cup in his first season with us and his first game was against the RS so maybe I'm being a romantic Or superstitious or stupid.
 

He wont be sacked before the cup run ends. Rightly so IMO.

As @Mikey_Fitzgerald said, the league is done. Busted.

In 2 one off games I would not be the remotest bit surprised if he delivered. And he deserves a shot at that.
 
Number_25 said:
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Class man, too bad he can't string a side for [Poor language removed].
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Irrespective of if we do win the cup this season, I think he's left a mostly positive legacy in his short time here.

Good luck to him wherever his future lies. Shame he couldn't get it to work out here.
 
D410 said:
Kenwright was at the game anyway I wouldn't trust either brown shoes or Bill as they have been thick as theives from the start.
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I wouldnt take that for granted, having a close working relationship with someone is one thing, he did that with Moyes, but when all said and done so what? Roberto isnt a "Everton man", if it was Southall or Ratcliffe as manager then maybe, but not this guy.
 
ianefc said:
He would, I'm just utterly pissed off at the current regime and he's a part of it.
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...in his defence there's been times this season when things have gone against and you look at the bench and there's only DUNC & JIMMY the KIT look remotely arsed & aggrieved. The shoes just stands vacant, fingers on chin, arm across chest and with his 'OMG' thought face on, frown like a CATALAN Meldrew 'not believing' it's all gone wrong. Again...

...and JONES is just utterly vapid and I'm not entirely convinced he serves any purpose at all aside from filling a seat and wafting a bit of paper when he's required to do so. And as for LAWRENCE... that's a man who almost certainly spends the 2nd half of every Saturday game contemplating what to have for his tea when he gets in, I'm sure of it, befuddled and with a stress-headache for no other reason than he can't quite decide between whether to have Beans or Spaghetti on his toast... don't think there can be another person in a pro-coaching role that looks so disinterested in what he does TBH....

They're hardly a dynamic trio are they....the bad tits.
 

Big clubs with ambition would sack him regardless of winning the FA Cup. The RS binned off one of their legends after a season in which he won them the League Cup and got them to an FA Cup final. They also binned Rodgers after he came second and was close to winning the league with them just a couple of years earlier. They did this because they have ambition and knew that they could attract better.

I read on here the other day that we are not in a crisis... yet, which made me think "Christ, if we aren't in a crisis when we are sitting in 14th place with less than 40 points in the middle of April, then who is our peer group?".

Because there is no way that our supposed 'big club' peers (the likes of the RS and Tottenham) wouldn't consider our current predicament as being anything other than a crisis. If being in 14th at this time of year isn't a crisis, then our peer group must be the likes of Swansea, Norwich and West Brom.
 
Dymak said:
Big clubs with ambition would sack him regardless of winning the FA Cup. The RS binned off one of their legends after a season in which he won them the League Cup and got them to an FA Cup final. They also binned Rodgers after he came second and was close to winning the league with them just couple of years earlier. They did this because they have ambition and knew that they could attract better.

I read on here the other day that we are not in a crisis... yet, which made me think "Christ, if we aren't in a crisis when we are sitting in 14th place with less than 40 points in the middle of April, then who is our peer group?".

Because there is no way that our supposed 'big club' peers (the likes of the RS and Tottenham) wouldn't consider our current predicament as being anything other than a crisis. If being in 14th at this time of year isn't a crisis, then our peer group must be the likes of Swansea, Norwich and West Brom.
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Some Everton fans wanting AVB. Spurs sacked the same AVB, despite him having their best ever win percentage for a manager.

Not advocating a managerial merry-go-round but it's indicative of our lack of ambition, how this is Martinez's second season of mid table results and he's still here.
 

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