Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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Never mind your Stokes and West Hams of colossus of the Premier League, we've won 1 few games this season than West Bromwich, Bournemouth and Watford.

How is that remotely acceltable?! 9 games, 4 of them at home! The 3rd worst home record so far this season and we're fortunate not to be the 2nd worst with Villa acting like they've never played foltball before.

He beeen banging on about getting into 2 semi finals since we beat Chelsea, honestly who cares?!

A seminar final is not a marker for success, finishing, on the verge of finishing in the lowest league position in 12 seasons in your 3rd season in charge is not progression.

It's all well and good building some bedrooms at Finch Farm to help with recovery and sport science (not like our staff or should I say ex staff seem to agree with his methods at all) to help future development and your master plan but as time goes by our current plan, and it's the only plan he has, is not good enough. Leicester look on course to win the league, Spurs could well win the league this season, West Ham are still going strong and could qualify for Europe and have a massive new stadium to enjoy themselves in, Hughes has pushed Stoke onto the next level from what Pulis was doing, meanwhile we're fannying around trying to make the most sideways passes in a match or try to confuse the opposition by playing players in the wrong position.
 
Azza said:
Never mind your Stokes and West Hams of colossus of the Premier League, we've won 1 few games this season than West Bromwich, Bournemouth and Watford.

How is that remotely acceltable?! 9 games, 4 of them at home! The 3rd worst home record so far this season and we're fortunate not to be the 2nd worst with Villa acting like they've never played foltball before.

He beeen banging on about getting into 2 semi finals since we beat Chelsea, honestly who cares?!

A seminar final is not a marker for success, finishing, on the verge of finishing in the lowest league position in 12 seasons in your 3rd season in charge is not progression.

It's all well and good building some bedrooms at Finch Farm to help with recovery and sport science (not like our staff or should I say ex staff seem to agree with his methods at all) to help future development and your master plan but as time goes by our current plan, and it's the only plan he has, is not good enough. Leicester look on course to win the league, Spurs could well win the league this season, West Ham are still going strong and could qualify for Europe and have a massive new stadium to enjoy themselves in, Hughes has pushed Stoke onto the next level from what Pulis was doing, meanwhile we're fannying around trying to make the most sideways passes in a match or try to confuse the opposition by playing players in the wrong position.
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He's a complete fraud, I'm not going the games next year if he's still in charge, not felt this much anger towards an Everton manager since Walker, and even then he had a much worse side than this.
 
Khalekan said:
I disagree with that.

Moyes was given a splendid farewell against Hammers in his final match.

We parted on the best of terms.......I know of no one who begrudged him his chance to move to Old Traffird.

It was in that summer when he alienated the Everton fans with his patronising comments about our club and his derisory bids for our best players.

The hatred was never "irrational".....he brought it on himself.

I for one would regard it as a retrograde step to fetch him back and it would shatter all my illusions that the new money coming in is going to transform our fortunes.

I would also say he doesn't "know the club" anymore.

One of the snidey comments he made was about "I know how Everon works.....Roberto will soon find out".

Well, within a year Bobby was paying £28 million for a player and a year later was able to tell Jose that money can't buy you Stones.

Luxuries wee Davey was never afforded in the club he knew so well.

And with Mr. Moshiri now involved the landscape has changed yet further.
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I understand fans being upset with Moyes actions in that transfer window, but he was just doing what he was being paid to do. Its part of what you would expect from the manager of your team. If the boot was on the other foot, how would you view it?
 
Azza said:
Never mind your Stokes and West Hams of colossus of the Premier League, we've won 1 few games this season than West Bromwich, Bournemouth and Watford.

How is that remotely acceltable?! 9 games, 4 of them at home! The 3rd worst home record so far this season and we're fortunate not to be the 2nd worst with Villa acting like they've never played foltball before.

He beeen banging on about getting into 2 semi finals since we beat Chelsea, honestly who cares?!

A seminar final is not a marker for success, finishing, on the verge of finishing in the lowest league position in 12 seasons in your 3rd season in charge is not progression.

It's all well and good building some bedrooms at Finch Farm to help with recovery and sport science (not like our staff or should I say ex staff seem to agree with his methods at all) to help future development and your master plan but as time goes by our current plan, and it's the only plan he has, is not good enough. Leicester look on course to win the league, Spurs could well win the league this season, West Ham are still going strong and could qualify for Europe and have a massive new stadium to enjoy themselves in, Hughes has pushed Stoke onto the next level from what Pulis was doing, meanwhile we're fannying around trying to make the most sideways passes in a match or try to confuse the opposition by playing players in the wrong position.
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I totally agree with the frustration but out problem is not when we have the ball but how we defend as a team without it. Let's not get confused - in general our attacking play has been very good, discipline defensively as a unit is were the issue is.
 

There's 2 things which push me over the edge with martinez. The lack of fight and heart is shocking, they just seem to roll over, we haven't had one of those moments that the crowd rocking (Neville against Ronaldo for example) which just make goodison an absolute nightmare to play in.

Secondly the shoe horning of people into positions that don't suit them, as much as he wants him to be tom cleverly is not inestia.
 
moyes cardy said:
I totally agree with the frustration but out problem is not when we have the ball but how we defend as a team without it. Let's not get confused - in general our attacking play has been very good, discipline defensively as a unit is were the issue is.
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We don't get many shots on target tho.
 
nsno-chris said:
There's 2 things which push me over the edge with martinez. The lack of fight and heart is shocking, they just seem to roll over, we haven't had one of those moments that the crowd rocking (Neville against Ronaldo for example) which just make goodison an absolute nightmare to play in.

Secondly the shoe horning of people into positions that don't suit them, as much as he wants him to be tom cleverly is not inestia.
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He should have replaced pienaar last summer at least.
 


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