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Martinez Out Banners. For, or against ?

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No. Leave it till the last home game of the season and then let him have it with both barrels (metaphorically speaking, of course).
 

It's fine to do it and it'll also determine how much weight there really is behind this.
Maybe someone has got one from 1983 that just says 'Get this manager out' that we can use.
My memory is rubbish but were there ever Walker Out or Smith Out banners?
 
PhilM said:
It frustrates me that many of our fan base are more concerned about whether they are akin to those across the park than our own interests.

Do not put banner up because you'll look like a Kopite... do not vent your disgruntled feelings as they'll think we are acting like Reds...

Now I'm not saying I'm totally for the banner due to it being before the semi-final, but worried about being a Kopite is the least of our problems.

My sole concern right now is the direction and progress (or lack of it) of our club and whether Roberto Martinez is the correct man for the job.

If that is not your priority and in fact you're more concerned how we may be perceived by others (or if we look like them), then I worry.

As @Groucho rightly puts it, silently matching into oblivion purely so we aren't like "them" is giving them too much credit; it's ludicrous.
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That thought crossed my mind too, putting up a banner is the least we can do, no pressure from fans sends out the wrong message to the club, we're Everton, let's think like Everton fans, we should be demanding success, not mediocrity. Kopite behaviour is having fans like Doctor Fun, Badgeman and full kit w*****s.
 
Surely with cups still to play for, we should be united behind the team and not causing further divisions.
By all means criticize the manager, but we should be united behind the team with the chance at silverware in our sights.
21 years since we lifted a cup, let's get behind the boys.
We should be doing everything in our power to give the players a boost in confidence going into that semifinal.
 

PhilM said:
It frustrates me that many of our fan base are more concerned about whether they are akin to those across the park than our own interests.

Do not put banner up because you'll look like a Kopite... do not vent your disgruntled feelings as they'll think we are acting like Reds...

Now I'm not saying I'm totally for the banner due to it being before the semi-final, but worried about being a Kopite is the least of our problems.

My sole concern right now is the direction and progress (or lack of it) of our club and whether Roberto Martinez is the correct man for the job.

If that is not your priority and in fact you're more concerned how we may be perceived by others (or if we look like them), then I worry.

As @Groucho rightly puts it, silently matching into oblivion purely so we aren't like "them" is giving them too much credit; it's ludicrous.
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I also think it's dangerous in itself to claim everything (whether it is or isn't) to be "Kopite".

Sooner or later everything under the sun would be proclaimed 'Kopite' at that rate. That's another debate though.

Bottom line is we must always do what is best for Everton at the time. That's as far removed from kopitism as it gets.
 
Ha Ha Ha Ha.

The Geordiefication continues apace. Midtable and one hand on the cup and it's....

"Ahhh! Der meeja isn't listening to uz...no one sees der torture we 'ave to purrup wid lad. It's not fair lad. We berra get der bedsheets out and rite stuff on it lad. Weev got Moshiris billyunz to spend now lad. We want Maureenyo in.".
 

Groucho said:
Bottom line is we must always do what is best for Everton at the time. That's as far removed from kopitism as it gets.
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Exactly! Yes it may not be in our nature to be as 'prominent' with our concerns and gripes, and to be fair that is not always a bad trait in itself.

Nevertheless, it can be a final balance between whether being proud and restrained can has a positive as we desire, or a negative affect.

If it has reached a point where change is needed (whatever that may be...) then keeping stum purely to maintain our values can be detrimental.

Really, I'm not bothered what Liverpool fans may think nor am I too concerned with the views of the press. Rather, I just want Everton to do well.

Having a go before the cup final may not be beneficial and that's a valid concern, yet how we are playing football isn't very beneficial either.

It's a difficult decision but as with yourself, personally, I think we've reached reached a point where our concerns need to be aired in some form.
 
davek said:
Ha Ha Ha Ha.

The Geordiefication continues apace. Midtable and one hand on the cup and it's....

"Ahhh! Der meeja isn't listening to uz...no one sees der torture we 'ave to purrup wid lad. It's not fair lad. We berra get der bedsheets out and rite stuff on it lad. Weev got Moshiris billyunz to spend now lad. We want Maureenyo in.".
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Finally flipped I see
 
davek said:
Ha Ha Ha Ha.

The Geordiefication continues apace. Mid Table and one hand on the cup and it's....

"Ahhh! Der meeja isn't listening to uz...no one sees der torture we 'ave to purrup wid lad. It's not fair lad. We berra get der bedsheets out and rite stuff on it lad. Weev got Moshiris billyunz to spend now lad. We want Maureenyo in.".
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I hear you get a statue outside of Goodison for that these days. They can put it next to the one we built for Roberto when 'our name was on the cup' in the league cup.
 
Onwards Evertonians said:
If the Echo are blind to it on their twitter feed but can make full story from one tweet then it's time for match going fans to be more proactive I'm afraid. Fans need to be seen as well as heard for change to happen, get vocal too.
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As @GrandOldTeam has said on many occasion (correct me if I'm wrong boss), but The Echo's parent company are clients of EFC - they're hardly likely to bite the hand that feeds.

Personally I think this is a failing of The Echo rather than the club - Everton simply employ a media service, however the Echo show zero journalistic integrity with their [Poor language removed]-footing around what are important issues as a result of the relationship.
 

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