Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[oldblue]

If Liverpool truly had wanted him they'd have got him.

Swansea and Wigan fans were really not that arsed that he left

And would that be how you'd be reading things if we were currently in the top four?

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

And would that be how you'd be reading things if we were currently in the top four?

But we're not. We're 12th.

 

[oldblue]

Steve Bruce and Paul Jewell must be amongst the best managers of all time if they got Wigan to finish 11th.

They did very well at their time at Wigan. Think that's not too hard to admit to is it even though it doesn't suit a closed argument

 

[oldblue]

But we're not. We're 12th.

Try to keep up with the context

 

[FisherEFC]

Try to keep up with the context

Have a day off lad.

 

[quasi modo]

Try to keep up with the context

Try and keep up with reality.

 

[The Esk]

Let's try and keep it on topic, relevant and polite lads. Thanks

 

[jinkyali]

I don't really care what the result is on Sunday. There's no difference between 5th and 17th so if we lose every game from now until the end of the season it really doesn't matter to me.

I agree.
Maybe we should lose every game for the next couple of seasons, concentrate on cups and then we could enter the Johnstones Paint trophy for a chance to win another cup.

 

[meagher94]

Why does he keep talking about being a winning team.... when we hardly ever win.

 

[ianefc]

League 2
Carlisle UTD
Dagenham and Redbridge

League 1
Barnsley

The Championship
Reading
Middlesbrough

Premier league
Bournemouth
Norwich
Chelsea


That's a list of the games we have won that have convinced so many (or few as its now turned out) that Martinez is the right man for the job, the games that have made our league form 'acceptable'

The man cannot get the best out of this team on a regular basis, that's an undeniable fact.

45 points dropped from winning positions in 107 league games

21 wins from the last 67 league games

Not come from behind at home to win a game in 26 months

4 home wins in the past calendar year

These are the facts that prove he isn't capable

He doesn't have the full skill set required to manage a premier league team. He's had 1 good league campaign in 9 attempts and I mean that in relative terms to, Bruce and Jewell kept Wigan safe he'd relegated them within 4 years.

Imagine us without Lukaku and whilst you're at it, get used to it

For all those say he brought him here and he's flourished, why isn't he being loyal to the guy some have deemed to be the ONLY reason he is here

I know some will be desperate to mention that I haven't acknowledged the Man City victory, that's because we did an ultimate Martinez and bottled it, 1 hour away from Wembley with a 3-1 advantage against a team who, if you look at their results either side of that fixture have been questionable at best.

I've been using these sane stats for months and unfortunately for us all the number of games played is growing a hell of a lot quicker than the number of games won.

I remember when it was 18 in 55 and I was being called a 'knee-jerker' well now we're upto 21 in 67

MARTINEZ OUT

The sooner the better

 

[ilikecheese]

League 2
Carlisle UTD
Dagenham and Redbridge

League 1
Barnsley

The Championship
Reading
Middlesbrough

Premier league
Bournemouth
Norwich
Chelsea


That's a list of the games we have won that have convinced so many (or few as its now turned out) that Martinez is the right man for the job, the games that have made our league form 'acceptable'

The man cannot get the best out of this team on a regular basis, that's an undeniable fact.

45 points dropped from winning positions in 107 league games

21 wins from the last 67 league games

Not come from behind at home to win a game in 26 months

4 home wins in the past calendar year

These are the facts that prove he isn't capable

He doesn't have the full skill set required to manage a premier league team. He's had 1 good league campaign in 9 attempts and I mean that in relative terms to, Bruce and Jewell kept Wigan safe he'd relegated them within 4 years.

Imagine us without Lukaku and whilst you're at it, get used to it

For all those say he brought him here and he's flourished, why isn't he being loyal to the guy some have deemed to be the ONLY reason he is here

I know some will be desperate to mention that I haven't acknowledged the Man City victory, that's because we did an ultimate Martinez and bottled it, 1 hour away from Wembley with a 3-1 advantage against a team who, if you look at their results either side of that fixture have been questionable at best.

I've been using these sane stats for months and unfortunately for us all the number of games played is growing a hell of a lot quicker than the number of games won.

I remember when it was 18 in 55 and I was being called a 'knee-jerker' well now we're upto 21 in 67

MARTINEZ OUT

The sooner the better

TL;DR

 

[hktoffee]

I just don't get why some fans think Martinez is defendable? 11th and now 12th, we have regressed. He has inherited a top 6 PL squad and have £15m net spend per season. How can people still defend his league records since August 2014? Fact is they are rubbish records. Plainly unacceptable.

I desperately want Everton to win the FA Cup but I cannot imagine where we stand in the league next season if he is still in charge. This is the issue.

 

[oldblue]

Have a day off lad.

Doesn't need much energy to keep up with some of this

 

[Groucho]

TL;DR

This brings nothing to the debate at all.

 

[oldblue]

Try and keep up with reality.

Some of you lot shift it pretty regularly so you can see the problem