Everton and Martinez are to blame should Lukaku leave

[Norwegian Cow]

• Lukaku is here because of one reason: Martinez fought tooth and nail for him and gambled a whole summer transfer money on him
• Lukaku scores as many goals as he does for one reason: Martinez builds the team around getting the ball to him
• Lukaku has gone from strength for one reason: Martinez has shown great faith in him and built his confidence that he could be the best and coached that into him
• If Lukaku goes to Bayern Munich or Madrid or another European juggernaut it wont be because Everton didn't get a CL play off spot, it'll be because he wants to win a Champions League itself.

Inconvenient facts.

Agree 100%. Lukaku also said that the reason he doesn't score so much for belgium as for Everton is that at Everton everyone is looking for him and providing him the opportunities to score.

 

[ricer10]

Lukaku will be an EFC player next season....

 

[dandydan]

17th and a cup is acceptable? I hope that's an April fools prank!

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

An average of £4.5 mil per player. Must be world beaters.

What's the net spend mert

He has a net spend of 47.7m over 3 years. A lot higher than the -10m Moyes had over 11 years.

 

[ilikecheese]

He has a net spend of 47.7m over 3 years. A lot higher than the -10m Moyes had over 11 years.

Every team in the league has more money these days. You can't even compare three years ago to today. We got £8 million pounds for Steven Naismith for God's sake. It's a whole different ballgame the transfer market.

 

[roydo]

Every team in the league has more money these days. You can't even compare three years ago to today. We got £8 million pounds for Steven Naismith for God's sake. It's a whole different ballgame the transfer market.

Yep. Utterly pointless exercise.

 

[davek]

• Lukaku is here because of one reason: Martinez fought tooth and nail for him and gambled a whole summer transfer money on him
• Lukaku scores as many goals as he does for one reason: Martinez builds the team around getting the ball to him
• Lukaku has gone from strength for one reason: Martinez has shown great faith in him and built his confidence that he could be the best and coached that into him
• If Lukaku goes to Bayern Munich or Madrid or another European juggernaut it wont be because Everton didn't get a CL play off spot, it'll be because he wants to win a Champions League itself.

Inconvenient facts.

BTW, that ^^^ has triggered about 20 PMs to my inbox saying it was spot on.

The general tone seems to be that it's a joke that anything now becomes cause for an attack on the manager. I half expect him to be blamed for the Port Talbot steel works closure.

 

[bizzaro]

Lukaku has outgrown us, he’s become too good compared with our performances and results. He deserves better. The Everton squad and management have let him down by not matching his standards.

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@davek i'm not sure if Elliot picket the right choice of words there to say the least.

Outgrown us?

Really?

I hadn't realised that Lukaku suddenly had become bigger than Everton in the space of 6 months.

 

[summerisle]

Martinez could spend £300m on defenders and they would still defend like the Maginot Line.

The Maginot line stopped at Belgium.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

I reckon @davek is lost from the wrestling thread and trying to gain 'major heat' by using football to wind people up i love his loyalty though, if only players had the same....

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

@davek i'm not sure if Elliot picket the right choice of words there to say the least.

Outgrown us?

Really?

I hadn't realised that Lukaku suddenly had become bigger than Everton in the space of 6 months.

Could you put the important bits of the post in a bold font to make it easier to read please? Thank you.

 

[jceverton]

Could and should have been us? In the CL?

Based on what? Paper? Pundits?

Must be all that experience and past success they have as a team eh?

With respect, it's a load of nonsense (the above point, not the article as a whole).

Really? Well based on our first season points total of 72 we would have!

 

[davek]

It's very clear Dave, Martinez does not have all the skills to manage this great club of ours. So whether it's this squad or an enhanced squad it makes no difference, I don't want him here.

He has skills, he's not all bad, but he's lacking in so many areas he's never going to cut it.

With a management team that can convince Lukaku of meeting his CL ambitions and an enhanced squad, perhaps we can keep hold of Lukaku. We definitely won't though if Martinez stays in place.

Highest points total in the PL and taking us to within two wins of our first trophy for 21 years would seem to suggest otherwise.

But on the squad: I think it's clear from your posts thus far that you believe that, not only is Martinez incapable of using it as it stands to obtain a CL spot, but any incoming manager would also struggle to secure a CL spot with it - hence the need for more purchases.

So there's a couple of things to emerge this week regarding your position:

1/ The failure to demonstrate why Martinez should be judged more harshly than previous Everton managers (poorer Everton managers one and all as measured by PL points performance and career win rate at the club) that he must walk the plank which no one else had to walk

and (relatedly)

2/ That the squad (the one you believe to be beyond question of such a quality that it amounts to a sackable offence not to utilise to gain a CL spot) is not going to be good enough after all to secure a CL place under the hypothetical new coach, who is to be superior to Martinez.

 

[Who's_up_for_cumpkins?]

Perhaps if the rest of the absolute plums in the team could get their lazy arses up with lukaku when the ball goes forward we might not be in this situation.

 

[4737carlin]

17th and a cup is acceptable? I hope that's an April fools prank!

If we win that cup who is going to look at the table from another competition when we are parading it around town? It wont save Robero his job but it will go down as great season for the club, who remembers where we came in 95?