Hypocrisy or stubbornness?

Hypocrisy or stubbornness?

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Kaiser Soysauce said:
In the wake of all the good news regarding Mr. Farhad Moshiri, would we be happy to 'buy' a league title or would you want to do it the 'safe way', i.e cautious spending and slower progress?

We're all a bit guilty of looking at the likes of Chelsea and Man City and muttering under our breaths "But they bought that title".

Hand on heart, will you be saying the same if we do the same?

After all, can you imagine picking up a title before the RS?!

Just curious is all.

Me personally, I'd go with buy a title, I've been waiting long enough and let's be honest, 1.2 billion pounds is A LOT of money :)
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I'm struggling with this, £1.2 bn is his personal wealth, I can't see why he'd invest great quantities of that, which is what would be required? How much did it cost the city fella before they won anything?

To be honest I'd be happy with keeping our talent and him investing £100m in playing staff in the summer and see where we are.

Talk of league titles is mental, IMO.
 

orly said:
Thank you for your ambition and honesty. Let's start thinking of our Aguero - Lukaku - Rooney frontline.
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I just can't imagine watching us lift the league trophy and people not enjoying it because we actually spent some money.
 
jal123 said:
I'm struggling with this, £1.2 bn is his personal wealth, I can't see why he'd invest great quantities of that, which is what would be required? How much did it cost the city fella before they won anything?

To be honest I'd be happy with keeping our talent and him investing £100m in playing staff in the summer and see where we are.

Talk of league titles is mental, IMO.
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Yeah agree it's a pipe dream at the moment mate, but it's brilliantly refreshing to have that sort of mentality and ambition.
 
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We've got money, but next season so will everyone else. Also city and Chelsea I can see splashing some major money. I'd just like to see us compete again, I'd love a new stadium and keep bringing some talented kids through (who we now have more of a chance of keeping) and splash out on the odd big signing. I think the days of someone doing a Blackburn are long gone. Let's get the feel good factor back, compete in the league, not panic every transfer window and even win the odd cup. Might take a few more years but we've waited this long...and let's be honest..we all deserve it.
 

jal123 said:
I'm struggling with this, £1.2 bn is his personal wealth, I can't see why he'd invest great quantities of that, which is what would be required? How much did it cost the city fella before they won anything?

To be honest I'd be happy with keeping our talent and him investing £100m in playing staff in the summer and see where we are.

Talk of league titles is mental, IMO.
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I don't quite understand what you mean.

If we keep all our players and spend £100m on players in the summer then I would fully expect a proper title challenge next season, and so would the rest of the country.

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect us to spend £100m or anywhere near, but if we did then top 4 would be an absolute minimum requirement for me.
 
Lanolin said:
I don't quite understand what you mean.

If we keep all our players and spend £100m on players in the summer then I would fully expect a proper title challenge next season, and so would the rest of the country.

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect us to spend £100m or anywhere near, but if we did then top 4 would be an absolute minimum requirement for me.
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No chance. Do you think Chelsea, City under Pep, United, Arsenal and Spurs if they win it or get second won't spend more than £100m? Of course they will and they are already starting well ahead of us, league position wise.

£100m of investment this summer coming and keeping everyone we need to keep puts us in the mix for Europe and challenging for top 4.
£100m now with this new telly deal doesn't jump you 5 or 6 places in the league anymore.
 
II McColl II said:
Ive got no problem with it but unless Usmanov or a few others come in with him we aint about to buy ourselves a league title, in comparison we now have someone with about the same funds as Stoke currently have, difference being plucky Everton are now going to have the funds to improve an already strong side instead of building a decent side from nothing like Stoke have since Hughes took over and bought in some quality players.

Only thing i can't stand is the plastic fans who jump on the bandwagons and act like they've supported the team all their lives.
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That's offensive, I'm offended. Ive been supporting Everton since the days we were in 12th place and played in an ancient crumbling stadium where you get rained on in most of the stands and they always run out of pies at half time.
 

jal123 said:
No chance. Do you think Chelsea, City under Pep, United, Arsenal and Spurs if they win it or get second won't spend more than £100m? Of course they will and they are already starting well ahead of us, league position wise.

£100m of investment this summer coming and keeping everyone we need to keep puts us in the mix for Europe and challenging for top 4.
£100m now with this new telly deal doesn't jump you 5 or 6 places in the league anymore.
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Sorry maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about spending £100m on transfer fees but I think you mean investment overall? In that case then I agree, but if you do mean transfer fees then absolutely not.

£100m net spend is huge. Absolutely colossal spending. Arsenal and Spurs have never even come remotely close to that level of spending so no I definitely would not see them doing that this summer. Also the fact that Leicester, Spurs and West Ham all look well capable of climbing the 5-6 places you mentioned despite only having spent about £100m between them (gross) this summer tells me you're wrong on that point at least.

I'm not saying £100m wins you the league, not by a long shot, but £100m of talent on top of lukaku, Barkley, stones, deulofeu etc? If you're not at least in the mix with that you're doing something wrong.
 
Lanolin said:
Sorry maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about spending £100m on transfer fees but I think you mean investment overall? In that case then I agree, but if you do mean transfer fees then absolutely not.

£100m net spend is huge. Absolutely colossal spending. Arsenal and Spurs have never even come remotely close to that level of spending so no I definitely would not see them doing that this summer. Also the fact that Leicester, Spurs and West Ham all look well capable of climbing the 5-6 places you mentioned despite only having spent about £100m between them (gross) this summer tells me you're wrong on that point at least.

I'm not saying £100m wins you the league, not by a long shot, but £100m of talent on top of lukaku, Barkley, stones, deulofeu etc? If you're not at least in the mix with that you're doing something wrong.
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Net spend is a kopite argument, this summer will see unprecedented spending from
Middling premier league sides
Let alone the likes of Chelsea (new manager) city (new manager) United (new manager) Arsenal have got millions in the bank, the mutants will spend massive amounts, Spurs will spend big.

Don't expect results over one window when we will still be outspent by 5 or 6 clubs that are already well ahead of us and 2
Or 3 who are in and around our level.
 
jal123 said:
Net spend is a kopite argument, this summer will see unprecedented spending from
Middling premier league sides
Let alone the likes of Chelsea (new manager) city (new manager) United (new manager) Arsenal have got millions in the bank, the mutants will spend massive amounts, Spurs will spend big.

Don't expect results over one window when we will still be outspent by 5 or 6 clubs that are already well ahead of us and 2
Or 3 who are in and around our level.
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Yeah, I mean the key point I was trying to make is I don't think we'll spend £100m. If we did though, I certainly wouldn't expect 8 or 9 clubs to outspend us.
 
The other thing is that if we went out and spent 100m this summer, we should expect to get a European place but we'd fail FFP by an absolute mile if we keep doing that.
We need investment to build the business side, increased stadium capacity (one way or the other), a whole new commercial team...then we could splash the cash more since we'd have higher revenues.

Of course, the new 8 billion TV rights will help cover a big spend, but that's the same for everyone next season.

If we keep everyone we've got and add 4-5 players, some of them big signings, we should be up there anyway with the squad we have. Exciting times will come back...but not right away (but I hope I'm wrong and it happens now!)

Also fingers crossed for Usmanov to come in as well!
 

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