Roberto Martinez discussion

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Jxg said:
Yeah I'm glad we tonked Chelsea when they were playing like an U11s side, the worst side in PL history in Villa, the second worst side in PL history in Newcastle and the third worst side in PL history in Sunderland. Forget everything I said.
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P.L history?? Is that true?
 

Les Clarkson said:
I have so many more ideas that are overlooked much to mine and no doubt countless other Side!
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McBain said:
I'm of the opinion the obscurity of potential is clouding many a sound judgement. The Premier League is performance based occupation. It's high stakes at the big table. It's as simple as that. You roll the dice, you win, you get three points and you look to the next week. You lose, you learn from your mistakes and you don't make the same mistake again. You make the same mistakes again, and rightly, questions are asked. You continually make the same mistakes and your time is up.

I've seen more negatives than positives in the current set up. We're in a funny place where players he's brought in have this amazing potential and yet it's the really basic stuff he can't get right. Not even get right, it does appear Roberto has no clue about any other side of Football, and we all know there's more than one way to play the game. We also seem to keep moving the goalposts in terms of where we will judge him. After 10 games...half way through the season...and now after what has to be construed as another failure of a season in the most open competition in a long time it's shifted to May. What's that going to achieve? Three years is plenty enough time and when were hot were very good, but when were not we absolutely stink. We seem to be expecting El Dorado to be over the next mountain. And then it's just across the river. And then it's in yonder valley. His team selections, his naivety, awful substitutions and his insanely one dimensional tactics make good players look awful. I really do 'get' the pure ideology behind the man, but with no plan B or C up his sleeve, he's increasingly being found out.

Look around and take stock of the other teams we compete with. What has changing Manager done for them, and why are we so afraid to do the same thing?

Jig's up for me.
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Good points but yesterday we all know was a mugging if we had and should have won we were 3 points off 5th and the goals change. Top 5 finish at a push and 2 good cup runs would arguably based on the last decade be seen as a relative success - the difference bring our attacking style has signifantly improved.
 

davek said:
Pochettino took over a significantly better funded team than Martinez did. You can't just make a measurement from what spurs spent when he took over, they had a decade or more significantly outspending Everton. That's an unreal measurement you're putting forward.

As for him outperforming Martinez: how? His first season at spurs he racked up 64 points; this season they need to take more than 21 points from their last 36 to overtake Martinez's first season total. Doable? Defo. But he hasn't done it yet.
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you'd give a 2 year old an aneurysm. You DO realize Pochettino could win the league this year, no? They're basically a lock for top4. Why are points your go-to instead of league placement? Because you CONSTANTLY say that 5th means literally nothing to you, yet with our RECORD POINTS TOTAL, we finished 5th? And then you turn around say that he's being judged unfairly by how great he was in his first year?
 

riddick said:
you'd give a 2 year old an aneurysm. You DO realize Pochettino could win the league this year, no? They're basically a lock for top4. Why are points your go-to instead of league placement? Because you CONSTANTLY say that 5th means literally nothing to you, yet with our RECORD POINTS TOTAL, we finished 5th? And then you turn around say that he's being judged unfairly by how great he was in his first year?
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Pochettino is doing a great job at Spurs, but they have been a free spending top London club for many years. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, its about time they looked half-decent.
 
riddick said:
people LOVE this except that their net spend is less than ours. how's that work?
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Not entirely sure but Bale must skew the figures? And they sold loads of expensive duffers that they'd previously shelled out millions on. Paulinho, Holtby, Capoue, Soldado etc etc. They had a rich pool of players to sell after being active in the market through all those years when we weren't.
 

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