Roberto Martinez discussion

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moyes cardy said:
What's your opinion - sack him or give a little more time to realise the potential of our best squad in 30 years?
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I'm of the opinion the obscurity of potential is clouding many a sound judgement. The Premier League is performance based occupation. It's high stakes at the big table. It's as simple as that. You roll the dice, you win, you get three points and you look to the next week. You lose, you learn from your mistakes and you don't make the same mistake again. You make the same mistakes again, and rightly, questions are asked. You continually make the same mistakes and your time is up.

I've seen more negatives than positives in the current set up. We're in a funny place where players he's brought in have this amazing potential and yet it's the really basic stuff he can't get right. Not even get right, it does appear Roberto has no clue about any other side of Football, and we all know there's more than one way to play the game. We also seem to keep moving the goalposts in terms of where we will judge him. After 10 games...half way through the season...and now after what has to be construed as another failure of a season in the most open competition in a long time it's shifted to May. What's that going to achieve? Three years is plenty enough time and when were hot were very good, but when were not we absolutely stink. We seem to be expecting El Dorado to be over the next mountain. And then it's just across the river. And then it's in yonder valley. His team selections, his naivety, awful substitutions and his insanely one dimensional tactics make good players look awful. I really do 'get' the pure ideology behind the man, but with no plan B or C up his sleeve, he's increasingly being found out.

Look around and take stock of the other teams we compete with. What has changing Manager done for them, and why are we so afraid to do the same thing?

Jig's up for me.
 
orly said:
Should have.

Doesn't.

He plays with the same ball as everyone else, it's the same grass, the same game. Other players on the pitch can produce it, Cleverley can't. The stats back this up. I've even gone as far as to show you what he contributes and you still won't have it lol
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Cleverley can and has, not bothering with this any more. Pointless trying to argue someone with strong hatred
 
davek said:
We all know the drill: Everton win next week and this thread sinks like a stone....again.

The feller is building a very good first team that blows hot and cold. We've done ok in the cups so far and are a midtable team.

If anyone thinks that isn't enough for Martinez to be here next season then they really haven't been concentrating on how Everton do things for a decade and a half.

The only way this changes is if:

A) We're taken over by Sheik Yer Money and he wants Mourinho in to spend his cash

or

B) Martinez feels like a change of direction himself with a move elsewhere.

I'd work on the very real prospect of us finishing top half, making two cup SFs and everyone looking forward to next season.
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If this season pans out as you suggest, how would you feel if next season followed a similar pattern?
 



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