silent bob
What a guy.
Pictures of animals humping seems to be the point for some on here.
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deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Can we all at least agree on one thing ?: Martinez is clueless
Bob Elstone
Player Valuation: £35m
Kone is disgustingly bad.
You can offer all sorts of opinions but at the end of the day, stats don't lie...
4 points from last 6 home games against Leicester, stoke, Spurs, swansea, Newcastle and west brom.
Most goals conceded at home than any other team in European top 5 leagues.
You can offer all sorts of opinions but at the end of the day, stats don't lie...
4 points from last 6 home games against Leicester, stoke, Spurs, swansea, Newcastle and west brom.
Most goals conceded at home than any other team in European top 5 leagues.
BernieWright13
Player Valuation: £15m
I can agree it, but reserve the right to further downgrade my opinion of him
BernieWright13
Player Valuation: £15m
Holy Catalonian hogwash
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
....and the manager of the team providing those stats earns 60,000 pounds A WEEK!!!
WarringtonBlue
Player Valuation: £8m
I can take us being boring. I don't mind if we are full but competent. I just can't take us being great then awful. The inconsistency is killing me and making the most routine match a stressful experience
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Leicester's manager is doing a waaaayy better job for their supporters...and I suggest on less remuneration than our snake oil salesman...
Jam tomorrow, always with the jam tomorrow...while the bread's going mouldy today
davids
Player Valuation: £70m
I'll take a journeyman like Flores all day long getting Valencia into the CL twice (once into the quarters) a cup with Benfica and an EL win with Atletico will do me.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
The manager has an APPALLING home record.
4 home wins in 10 months.
4 points from last 6 home games against Leicester, Stoke, Spurs, Swansea, Newcastle and West Brom.
More goals conceded at home this season than ANY other team in Europe's top 5 leagues.
Absolutely damning stats.
Sick and tired of people with their silly 'you're just kneejerkers' shouts. It's not a knee jerk reaction when our form has been awful for MONTHS. 2013/14 was a blip, beginners luck when he still had most of Moyes infrastructure and methods in place and just added a bit of flair. Last season's 11th place finish and this season most probable 10th/11th place finish is the norm. Not good enough at all and cannot be justified.
Also sick and tired of the 'best squad for 20 years' shouts too. They blatantly are not. They're not even the best squad in the last 10 years.
We have 1 top quality goalscorer in Lukaku. We have a flair player in Deloufeu who occasionally excites (when he's in the mood). We have POTENTIALLY a top quality defender in Stones, whose form has dipped and whose motivation/concentration is questionable.
The rest are solid hands, a few above average Prem players who lack the consistency to be top 4 club players (Coleman, Lennon, Cleverley, Mirallas).
The remainder are players who should not even be at the club any more as they are finished - Howard, Osman, Kone for starters. In a year or two it will be Jags and Baines.
Some people need a reality check and to stop hiding behind spin.
That's an incredibly simplistic view of the game though mate. West brom offered nothing because they were ahead for virtually the entire game, they weren't on the back foot because we were too good for them, they were quite content to play that way and we struggled to create clear chances. Our 'dominance' was due to the way the game panned out.
The Kone sub was terrible. We desperately needed width, we had to stretch them and the best way to do that was with another winger. Instead we put Kone out there and ended up being even more narrow and easy to defend against. Also lukaku doesn't play better with Kone, he's shown that over recent months. Like most strikers, he tends to find things with any other striker alongside him because it means he gets less attention, but there's no reason that has to be Kone.
WarringtonBlue
Player Valuation: £8m
Yes. I think the style of at favours that direct 442 style ranieri employs and the man has said he compromised his principles when he saw how effective it was.
My problem is that we dominate at stoke and Peter out against west brom. Could we have not gone more direct? Feel like a cut price mid 00s arsenal
I think the last two games have been a microcosm of where we are at the moment. Against Stoke we counter-attacked brilliantly and should have won by more than 3 goals. We only had 34% possession but hit them consistently on the break, at pace and with good movement by support players. The move for our penalty was a great example of this. A ball from our own half from Oviedo to Barkley, a neat back heel to Oviedo again, who had run on, a quick through ball to Cleverley who had pushed on at pace and he was into their box. The whole move was played at pace and was very direct. This type of move is what we excel at. To play this way, though, you need space for players to move into when we attack. Away from home this is usually not a problem, as the opposition will normally want to push forward as they are the home team. When their attacks break down we have the players to exploit this.
When we play at home, however, the situation is different. Occasionally we will play a team who will come at us and we have a similar situation to an away game. Chelsea this season was a good example of this. They had 61 % possession but we hit them effectively on the break and won pretty comfortably. Usually at home, however, the opposition will sit back and look to hit us on the break (e.g. Stoke and Leicester) or just defend in numbers (e.g. West Brom yesterday). Breaking down teams who set up like this is something we are less good at. I'd say Arsenal are one of the best at this, where they will play a forward game based on quick, short passing in the opposition half with continuous movement of their forward players to try to find space. The movement of our attacking players isn't good enough to do this and we end up either playing primarily down the wings or shuffling the ball side-ways. In situations like that the likes of Baines and Pienaar (at least when he was in his prime) are much more effective than Oviedo and Cleverley. I would be tempted to go for different players and set ups at home and away from home. At home we need players who can operate in a close inter-passing game with constant movement to try to find space. Away from home we do as we do now - absorb pressure and hit teams with pace on the break.
When we play at home, however, the situation is different. Occasionally we will play a team who will come at us and we have a similar situation to an away game. Chelsea this season was a good example of this. They had 61 % possession but we hit them effectively on the break and won pretty comfortably. Usually at home, however, the opposition will sit back and look to hit us on the break (e.g. Stoke and Leicester) or just defend in numbers (e.g. West Brom yesterday). Breaking down teams who set up like this is something we are less good at. I'd say Arsenal are one of the best at this, where they will play a forward game based on quick, short passing in the opposition half with continuous movement of their forward players to try to find space. The movement of our attacking players isn't good enough to do this and we end up either playing primarily down the wings or shuffling the ball side-ways. In situations like that the likes of Baines and Pienaar (at least when he was in his prime) are much more effective than Oviedo and Cleverley. I would be tempted to go for different players and set ups at home and away from home. At home we need players who can operate in a close inter-passing game with constant movement to try to find space. Away from home we do as we do now - absorb pressure and hit teams with pace on the break.
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