Making a Murderer Documentary on Netflix

neil999 · January 18, 2016

Efcjake said:
I don't think any of the evidence left out of the documentary really sways it into the realm of certainty one way or another.

I've seen people respond to what they claim was left out and none of it is the smoking gun.

There's no arguing the doc is one-sided though. I don't even necessarily think the doc is designed to make us believe he is innocent, if it was then it didn't do a great job. What it did do is present a case full of reasonable doubts from questioning the key state evidence which should have been enough to provide a not guilty verdict for both accused.

what it mainly did for me was show how messed up the american justice system is, the press interviewed avery while was in prison lol for goodnesss sakes...

McBain · January 18, 2016

Pabbers said:
He did it, loads of info was not shown in the programme, how he did it is another question.

Like someone said, the police have tried to 'ensure conviction'.

The TV show is all one sided, and designed to make us all believe he is innocent.

Mate Blind Freddy can see clearer than you. Yeah I don't know what you were watching at all.

Jags..class · January 18, 2016

Pabbers said:
He did it, loads of info was not shown in the programme, how he did it is another question.

Like someone said, the police have tried to 'ensure conviction'.

The TV show is all one sided, and designed to make us all believe he is innocent.

You can't ensure conviction by planting evidence. If someone is guilty then there will be real evidence especially someone with a low IQ

bignev23 · January 18, 2016

There are a million holes in the prosecution case but Why would he burn her body and leave it right outside his home with her vehicle on his property knowing it was the last place she had been, it is asking to be caught, he wasn't the brightest but even the dumbest would know that if you put her in the car and drove it away you would have more chance of getting away with the murder. That is almost like he was asking to be caught and I could understand that if he had killed her out of spite being bitter for previously being stitched up but he wasn't because he has denied any knowledge of it from day 1. The whole thing is one big stinking pile of [Poor language removed] brought about by small town officials who have never had to answer to or been questioned by any outsiders and are so clueless and heartless it is sickening. I would have my money on Lenk and the other bizzy, with Lenk being the instigator, the dirty snides. Can't see how anyone watching would come to the conclusion he's guilty but some people recon Tim Howard is decent.

Jags..class · January 18, 2016

bignev23 said:
There are a million holes in the prosecution case but Why would he burn her body and leave it right outside his home with her vehicle on his property knowing it was the last place she had been, it is asking to be caught, he wasn't the brightest but even the dumbest would know that if you put her in the car and drove it away you would have more chance of getting away with the murder. That is almost like he was asking to be caught and I could understand that if he had killed her out of spite being bitter for previously being stitched up but he wasn't because he has denied any knowledge of it from day 1. The whole thing is one big stinking pile of [Poor language removed] brought about by small town officials who have never had to answer to or been questioned by any outsiders and are so clueless and heartless it is sickening. I would have my money on Lenk and the other bizzy, with Lenk being the instigator, the dirty snides. Can't see how anyone watching would come to the conclusion he's guilty but some people recon Tim Howard is decent.

Where is her blood? You couldn't clean that garage if you tried.

bignev23 · January 18, 2016

Jags..class said:
Where is her blood? You couldn't clean that garage if you tried.

Obviously we'll never know the full truth but I'd guess an open minded jury in another state would never have convicted him. I think it really is a small town clique that has stitched him up for a second time. So many holes in the prosecutions version/s of events it is unreal. Can't see how anybody who didn't have a clique mentality like that could convict him, there is just no way you could be certain he did it.

Mozza1987 · January 18, 2016

Jags..class said:
Where is her blood? You couldn't clean that garage if you tried.

That's the big one for me. No traces of blood in his house and garage is impossible.

Jags..class · January 18, 2016

Mozza1987 said:
That's the big one for me. No traces of blood in his house and garage is impossible.

But he left the bones outside the house, he left the car on his land oh and the keys in his bedroom but cleaned up all the blood.

If they keys were found on the first search by a different county then yet I would believe the keys were not planted but lenk of all the police officers was there when the key was found.

RomanReigns · January 18, 2016

watch 12 angry men

if there is reasonable doubt you cannot convict

where is the blood evidence in his bedroom or garage for someone who had their throat sliced? where is the blood spatter? none on the walls, carpet, clothing, bed

nadda

i have reasonable doubt

Whistlin' Dixie · January 18, 2016

RomanReigns said:
watch 12 angry men

if there is reasonable doubt you cannot convict

where is the blood evidence in his bedroom or garage for someone who had their throat sliced? where is the blood spatter? none on the walls, carpet, clothing, bed

nadda

i have reasonable doubt

Avery's (The uncle's) lawyer said at the start of deliberations that the vote/split was 7 innocent, 2 undecided, and 3 guilty....How did the ones going guilty manage to convince 9 others (Or at least 7) to change their minds?

Some gutless people in this world; plenty from those two counties in Wisconsin, it seems.

RomanReigns · January 18, 2016

Whistlin' Dixie said:
Avery's (The uncle's) lawyer said at the start of deliberations that the vote/split was 7 innocent, 2 undecided, and 3 guilty....How did the ones going guilty manage to convince 9 others (Or at least 7) to change their minds?

Some gutless people in this world; plenty from those two counties in Wisconsin, it seems.

i imagine it went something along the lines of

'i dont care what you say he is guilty and i am not changing my vote no matter what'

'hmm i have to do some errands and there's a footy game on at 7pm i can't be arsed waiting about ill just vote guilty so we can get this over with'

some pushovers in society.

Pabbers · January 18, 2016

McBain said:
Mate Blind Freddy can see clearer than you. Yeah I don't know what you were watching at all.

You have been sold, by the designed tv show

Whistlin' Dixie · January 18, 2016

RomanReigns said:
i imagine it went something along the lines of

'i dont care what you say he is guilty and i am not changing my vote no matter what'

'hmm i have to do some errands and there's a footy game on at 7pm i can't be arsed waiting about ill just vote guilty so we can get this over with'

some pushovers in society.

Well it hardly was Hancock's version of 12 angry men, like. Took 4 days to reach a verdict, didn't it?

I'd have loved to have been a mosquito on the wall in that jury room. I'd have bitten the rats who sold him out & in doing so hopefully infected them with something nasty.

A really sad indictment of (US) society and what passes for 'justice'.

McBain · January 18, 2016

Pabbers said:
You have been sold, by the designed tv show

Oh you're on a wind up.

My bad.

Efcjake · January 18, 2016

Mozza1987 said:
That's the big one for me. No traces of blood in his house and garage is impossible.

The only blood they found in the garage, yes they did find some, was deer blood. How do you clean the garage so well to remove any trace of the victim's blood and yet still leave evidence that you butchered a deer?