Tim Howard

ilikecheese · January 16, 2016

The Esk said:
Think a fully match fit Jags would have usually dealt with Fabregas' ball over the top, but ultimately Howard could see the play developing, the ball was in the air a long time and (i) he did not react quickly enough and (ii) have the physical presence to deny Costa so I'm afraid it has to go down to him.

Seen him make that mistake before, so I'm not so sure.

Chang Elephant · January 16, 2016

ilikecheese said:
Seen him make that mistake before, so I'm not so sure.

I'm surprised he can kick a ball straight due to nerves from playing in front of this abortion of a goalkeeper

cronullasharks · January 16, 2016

MartSlinger said:
A Jagielka that isnt playing only his third game since two months out would, Howard has NO excuse.

That's not really an excuse for jags though either as he was excellent other than that moment.

Khalekan · January 17, 2016

cronullasharks said:
That's not really an excuse for jags though either as he was excellent other than that moment.

Agreed.

Howard is being pilloried for his role in the first goal abut IMO the main culprit was Jags.

USABlue · January 17, 2016

Khalekan said:
Agreed.

Howard is being pilloried for his role in the first goal abut IMO the main culprit was Jags.

They were both to blame for the first tbh. Jags handled it horribly then tim came out and got nothing on it which was also terrible play. the 2nd was a crap deflection and the 3rd well documented

Khalekan · January 17, 2016

USABlue said:
They were both to blame for the first tbh. Jags handled it horribly then tim came out and got nothing on it which was also terrible play. the 2nd was a crap deflection and the 3rd well documented

Tim didn't cover himself with glory for the first goal but he is not the principal villain IMO.

That said, I am not comfortable pinning blame on our guys when the simple truth is the referee robed us of the points in the end.

USABlue · January 17, 2016

Khalekan said:
Tim didn't cover himself with glory for the first goal but he is not the principal villain IMO.

That said, I am not comfortable pinning blame on our guys when the simple truth is the referee robed us of the points in the end.

Yup that last bit was the point I was trying to make but terribly haha there wasn't much more our guys could've done about their 2nd and 3rd

JAYTALITY · January 17, 2016

Knowing he can't win a cup with Everton now that we use a different keeper fir them must be disenchanting.

Still · January 17, 2016

Simple point is;

When you want him to come off his line, he won't

When you want him on his line, he's crumpling down on his knees somewhere around the penalty spot.

TheFinnFan · January 17, 2016

We should have gone after Boyko. But I quess his disiblinary problems drove us away.

The Esk · January 17, 2016

The point about yesterday's first goal was that the ball played by Fabregas was in the air a long time, secondly Howard could see the whole play develop in front of him and thirdly if you are going to come off your line you have to make sure you will be first to the ball, otherwise you hold your position around the six yard line and narrow the angle if the attacker gets ahead of the defender.

Pretty basic goalkeeping. Poor judgement and execution yesterday.

Caolam · January 17, 2016

The Esk said:
The point about yesterday's first goal was that the ball played by Fabregas was in the air a long time, secondly Howard could see the whole play develop in front of him and thirdly if you are going to come off your line you have to make sure you will be first to the ball, otherwise you hold your position around the six yard line and narrow the angle if the attacker gets ahead of the defender.

Pretty basic goalkeeping. Poor judgement and execution yesterday.

100% correct.

jceverton · January 17, 2016

Jaytality said:
Knowing he can't win a cup with Everton now that we use a different keeper fir them must be disenchanting.

There's no way we're winning a cup with Howard in goal so I wouldn't worry about it.

Chang Elephant · January 17, 2016

Could have stayed on his line - didn't.

Chose to come for the ball - I thought this was the right decision, he was still favourite for it..... just chose to run completely past it towards a burger bar which suggests either a visual defect, lunacy, or cowardice.

Get shut Coco.

Real_madras · January 17, 2016

Will say he made a few good saves yesterday. I think the two goals were team fault goals rather than just down to Tim Howard. The third wasn't the teams fault. Apart from maybe over celebration for our third. But I do agree we need a new keeper.