Tim Howard

[daz4matty]

I love when Howard gets criticized for not saving a shot that hits the woodwork. Really sums up the attitude of Everton fans towards him.

Most fans know he is the worst keeper in the league

 

[Joey66]

No youre a bit confused there. People do want him to come out for crosses and where appropriate punch them..once..and with precision and purpose. Not like a pi*sed up kamikaze Norman Wisdom.

lollol Spot on!

 

[toffeemax]

Fair enough about the first line I guess.

We do dally about with it a bit more, but so do Spurs. And that's a situation where you'd think a youth team keeper would come and sweep up the ball, let alone an experienced international GK who's been at several world cups.

And the situation I talked about, the ball was in the air for about a minute, T-HoW could've moved, had plenty of time, Stones even anticipated it by letting it drop behind him, yet no movement whatsoever. How is this not some kind of trust issue?

I remember the one you mean and yes that was a bit of an awkward incident but did show some signs of hesitation and lack of confidence which is kind of understandable when you have 40,000 on your back and concede for fun!

 

[toffeemax]

Most fans know he is the worst keeper in the league

looking on twitter earlier loads were surprised at the amount of abuse he got.

 

[atrottel]

I love when Howard gets criticized for not saving a shot that hits the woodwork. Really sums up the attitude of Everton fans towards him.

So when he gets beaten and it hits the post, it is because he had a premonition of exactly where it would go and had covered the goal completely.

 

[toffeemax]

He got beaten twice from outside the box (both luckily hit the woodwork), once inside which wasn't too far away from him, flapped at a cross as he normally does and - still - can't kick a ball.

saved a few from outside the box that you fail to mention. And those shots would have beaten most premier league keepers ffs, look at how easy it was for them to get shots off. Bet you don't blame Lloris for the Lennon goal...

 

[DualityNSNO]

I remember the one you mean and yes that was a bit of an awkward incident but did show some signs of hesitation and lack of confidence which is kind of understandable when you have 40,000 on your back and concede for fun!

I see your point, but it's not a new thing, he's done that kind of thing for a while now, the difference is that defenders usually have the time to clear it into the stands when he doesn't do it, whereas Stones had someone on his back instantly.

 

[Joey66]

M

looking on twitter earlier loads were surprised at the amount of
abuse he got.

More reason to rest him for the rest of the season then?

 

[toffeemax]

I see your point, but it's not a new thing, he's done that kind of thing for a while now, the difference is that defenders usually have the time to clear it into the stands when he doesn't do it, whereas Stones had someone on his back instantly.

but he still played about with it did Stones even when howard wasn't within passing distance, 2nd half down by the spurs fans and park end. Either way it's more the back 5 than just Howard that needs continued work on, not that we don't need a new keeper when possible.

 

[Joey66]

But both of those resulted in Everton gaining possession.

I swear, you all care more about Howard looks when he plays than how he actually performs.

It was Lucky you can not rely on regulation catches or punches by a Keeper, who is poor on crosses!
Those flaps can go anywhere today he got lucky!
Not like in the past where it's been costly !

 

[DualityNSNO]

but he still played about with it did Stones even when howard wasn't within passing distance, 2nd half down by the spurs fans and park end. Either way it's more the back 5 than just Howard that needs continued work on, not that we don't need a new keeper when possible.

Agreed.

For that situation though - as a CB you DON'T pass to a GK who is on his line - you wait for him to be at least slightly to the side. The goalie has to move to the side, as slip ups regularly happen and that's an own goal for no reason whatsoever. It's something both "positions" are taught when they're about 14 (and every goalkeeper/defender should do unless it's virtually impossible/ball is knocked back from a tackle and so on), so I have no idea why he didn't do it now - he could've at least moved to his right and booted the ball away, like...

 

[atrottel]

Bet you don't blame Lloris for the Lennon goal...

Tbf, if I was a Spurs fan or was worried about it, I would have thought he might have done a bit better. But it was also inside the box so less time to react.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Stones was giving it back to the fans behind the goal, not Tim.

Hopefully the knuckle draggers don't abuse him on Twitter for that like they do Howard.

 

[Joey66]

Agreed.

For that situation though - as a CB you DON'T pass to a GK who is on his line - you wait for him to be at least slightly to the side. The goalie has to move to the side, as slip ups regularly happen and that's an own goal for no reason whatsoever. It's something both "positions" are taught when they're about 14 (and every goalkeeper/defender should do unless it's virtually impossible/ball is knocked back from a tackle and so on), so I have no idea why he didn't do it now - he could've at least moved to his right and booted the ball away, like...

Spot on stones was looking at Tim and he was static as usual!

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Bin the flapping, useless beaut off.

He's an total liability these days, he's shot.