ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Fair enough, only adds to the fact he isn't a 'dire' manager, just a stupid comment.
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Players with professional pride will want to improve their game and as a result the teams performance. The very pleasing thing is they feel free to voice such concerns in the first place. Funny really, but they appear to want to play for the manager. Might be an illusion like and they may really be like those at Chelsea and Manu, that throw in the towel at the first signs that they need to role up their own sleeves themselves and improve their game.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
That right? Well not to go off topic but it was only the fact out of nowhere about a week ago yet again you gave me a mention, you even tagged me this time TBF, point being you talking about me 'thinking about you'
That's what reminded me, it was fitting Stoke were coming up to beat us for the 3rd time running.
What's that saying about stones and glass houses.
Good attempt though.
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ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't doubt they want to play for the manager as part of their make up, he's clearly a nice guy, of that their is no doubt. You also make a good point about the likes of Chelsea players seemingly throwing in the towel when they are peeved with whoever the current manager is, it's something I have thought about their players for a long time....it only makes it more worrying that our players, as you and I agree on BTW, haven't thrown in the towel yet our results are still what they are.
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
he's just another Moyes. Stoke is his level.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
To be honest two senior player interventions in 12 months is not great. Martinez shouldn't need his problems identified by the players.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
A level currently above the one we're operating at.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Said with no irony I assume.
Could you tell me the reasoning behind the Moyes/Hughes comparison please. Not being sarcastic, but the last thing I thought when I saw that first goal on sat, created by 3 relatively small players, the incisive pass played by Bojan (who was playing as a 'false 9'') was that's Moyes type football that.
Where is the comparison?
How have you determined almost all of us are for the good of Martinez over the club and why are they mutually exclusive? ... Don't worry I'll answer it for you. You've been caught out as petty giving likes in that manner and are now playing some strange victim role. There are plenty on your side of the coin, plenty on Dave's, and plenty stuck firmly between knowing they just want us to be successful and that firing a manager at this juncture with no obvious replacements (please please please forget Hughes) would probably push us further down the table.
Everton surrendered another lead when conceding two late goals as Stoke claimed a thrilling4-3 win at Goodison Park on Monday.
Manager Roberto Martinez - who is monitoring Leeds' Sam Byram ahead of a summer move - has also seen his players let advantages slip against the likes of Bournemouth and Norwich in recent weeks.
The situation brought a terse assessment from stand-in captain Barry, who said: "We have just got ourselves to blame. We've been in this situation many times before and clearly we have not learned our lesson.
"You get that sort of game and then find yourself ahead and with 12/15 minutes to go, but we've not got ourselves in a position, or in formation on the pitch, to close the game out.
"We need to change our mentality and, as a team, be able to realise the situation of the game. We have got attacking players that do want to score goals but once you get ahead in an end-to-end game like that we need to close the game out.
"We have to change our mentality. We don't need to score again but need to keep a clean sheet to win the game.
"We have had meetings about it. We have spoken about it so everyone knows their jobs. Unfortunately we let ourselves down.
"We need to tighten up in certain areas and stop showing that naive side in the team. If we do that we are capable of going on a run."
Nothing like a professional exchange of views in the dressing room and between the players and manager. Even making a comment about our formation. There is no point the players walking on egg shells around a problem They are the ones that need to react on the pitch and it is as much up to them to solve the defensive side of our game.
Manager Roberto Martinez - who is monitoring Leeds' Sam Byram ahead of a summer move - has also seen his players let advantages slip against the likes of Bournemouth and Norwich in recent weeks.
The situation brought a terse assessment from stand-in captain Barry, who said: "We have just got ourselves to blame. We've been in this situation many times before and clearly we have not learned our lesson.
"You get that sort of game and then find yourself ahead and with 12/15 minutes to go, but we've not got ourselves in a position, or in formation on the pitch, to close the game out.
"We need to change our mentality and, as a team, be able to realise the situation of the game. We have got attacking players that do want to score goals but once you get ahead in an end-to-end game like that we need to close the game out.
"We have to change our mentality. We don't need to score again but need to keep a clean sheet to win the game.
"We have had meetings about it. We have spoken about it so everyone knows their jobs. Unfortunately we let ourselves down.
"We need to tighten up in certain areas and stop showing that naive side in the team. If we do that we are capable of going on a run."
Nothing like a professional exchange of views in the dressing room and between the players and manager. Even making a comment about our formation. There is no point the players walking on egg shells around a problem They are the ones that need to react on the pitch and it is as much up to them to solve the defensive side of our game.
Sometimes I feel like I am Rip Van Winkle.
I fell asleep sometime around 1989 and woke up the week before Christmas this year.
And assumed that we have had top four placings every year whilst I was asleep.
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For most of the past quarter century we have
If that article is factual, and it being a Daily Mail piece one needs to have a pinch of salt at the ready, it reads like the players abrogating responsibility.
Because practically every goal we concede comes gift wrapped by one of our players who doesn't perform a basic task like clear his lines properly or pass the blooming ball to his own player.
To take one of those goals at random......the Norwich equaliser.
The defence is set up well to deal with a corner....the ball is headed toward the corner of the net were we have a man, Ross, perfectly positioned to make a routine clearance.
He botched the clearance.....two bites at it, mind......and Norwich score.
The Palace goal.....all three at Bournemouth.....gift wrapped.
Bugger all to do with a lack of tactical nous on behalf of Bobby.....just bad play on behalf of players the Daily Mail would have us believe are demanding change from the manager.
I fell asleep sometime around 1989 and woke up the week before Christmas this year.
And assumed that we have had top four placings every year whilst I was asleep.
Hello.
For most of the past quarter century we have
If that article is factual, and it being a Daily Mail piece one needs to have a pinch of salt at the ready, it reads like the players abrogating responsibility.
Because practically every goal we concede comes gift wrapped by one of our players who doesn't perform a basic task like clear his lines properly or pass the blooming ball to his own player.
To take one of those goals at random......the Norwich equaliser.
The defence is set up well to deal with a corner....the ball is headed toward the corner of the net were we have a man, Ross, perfectly positioned to make a routine clearance.
He botched the clearance.....two bites at it, mind......and Norwich score.
The Palace goal.....all three at Bournemouth.....gift wrapped.
Bugger all to do with a lack of tactical nous on behalf of Bobby.....just bad play on behalf of players the Daily Mail would have us believe are demanding change from the manager.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Stoke's first was dinosaur football by Hughes, all that interplay between a fluid front three was disgusting to watch. He should be more like the entertainers, Cleverley's 50 yard hoof to Lukaku, football gold that all the neutrals are undoubtedly slobbering over without a thought of our relatively poor league position.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Just read opening line of your post so just wanted to address that bit first as what I said reads terribly, it's meant to mean that the vast majority of our fans want what's best for the club before they want what's best for Martinez. Again apologies it read terribly.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Read the rest now, wasn't worth it.
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