Roberto Martinez discussion

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wiggum23 said:
Agree, but would a cup win be enough to keep the star players at the club? It would be huge for us fans, but players want to be in or competing for the Champions League.

I worry we are in danger of losing key players unless we start to fulfill our obvious class with points. If he doesn't get a new keeper in early Jan then we really do risk our cup run too with coco the clown still in goal.
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That I'm not so sure of mate. Wouldn't do any harm I guess as at least it's European togger guaranteed.
 

hktoffee said:
Yes won the cup that was great a trophy 20 years ago. Of course I remembered that even I was a kid. Personally I want the club can be a top 6 PL team consistently and eventually get a CL place in long terms. But hey without a solid defence I cannot see it.
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I'd much rather we won something than were a consistent top 6 club. Finishing anywhere other than first isnt winning.


Seeing as winning a cup gets you into Europe anyway and you can finish 6th and not get into Europe, I'd much rather have a trophy.
 

wiggum23 said:
Agree, but would a cup win be enough to keep the star players at the club? It would be huge for us fans, but players want to be in or competing for the Champions League.

I worry we are in danger of losing key players unless we start to fulfill our obvious class with points. If he doesn't get a new keeper in early Jan then we really do risk our cup run too with coco the clown still in goal.
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The keeper is an concern but the club might find it hard to sign one in jan plus if we go then howard would have to leave right away or we risk another distin situation
Howard is s big influence in the dressing room. He a strong personality
 
Jags..class said:
The keeper is an concern but the club might find it hard to sign one in jan plus if we go then howard would have to leave right away or we risk another distin situation
Howard is s big influence in the dressing room. He a strong personality
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The manager is paid millions to deal with these personalities though mate. In any case I think an MLS club would sign him no probs.
 

ijjysmith said:
High defensive line? Please have a look at their third goal again.

And then again please.
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You miss their 2nd goal? Tell you what it just go wrong in every department when it comes to defence. Is this a good enough answer?

This can go on and on. Why does he chose not to close out the game when the score was 3-2 with 20 mins left etc.
 
We can't do the basic things, so we will never succeed. Can't attack or defend set pieces. Our defensive positioning is horrendous, everytime we face an attack it looks like we will concede. The attacking football is ok but half the time it ends up being a million passes to nowhere.

His time is up for me, conceding four at home to stoke is unacceptable.
 
hktoffee said:
Robles cannot change the naive defensive tactics though. Overplay at the back, set pieces, and high defensive line caused us.
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I didnt say he would but i think its a step in the right direction. We also need a leader at centrehalf as neither stones or mori seem to be organising things for obvious reasons.
 
hktoffee said:
You miss their 2nd goal? Tell you what it just go wrong in every department when it comes to defence. Is this a good enough answer?

This can go on and on. Why does he chose to close out the game
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Could be the players aren't good at instructions. But the players do seem to be getting off lightly. Especially by you.
 

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