Roberto Martinez discussion

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Whistlin' Dixie said:
Change the friggin' record fafs.

Last week it was "beat newcastle" - until it became: "beat newcastle AND stoke..."

And so we got a last-gasp winner against newcastle - and then got beat by stoke. Marvellous. :(

You really should change your user name to @Jamtomorrow.
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He is deluded mate don't take him seriously
 



davek said:
They'll only go if we dont have Martinez. They buy into this manager and will be gone in an instant if he leaves....which thankfully isn't happening., so everything's good. You know the drill mate: next game and a win and the moaners disappear.
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Lets see...i hope youre right. Regular moaners are here to stay thats the way it is. Im so effing dissapointed that i have difficulties to keep my cool. It's true what you said about our young players...we need time to develop towards better consistency. We can be brilliant...and we can be pssst poor. Our opponents never know which one they get lol
 
Berenger said:
People are right that there is a deep problem.

The deep problem is that Martinez's core philosophy is totally incompatible with being a solid defensive team. That's the trade-off you buy into with Martinez as manager. It's not just his tactics, it's the mentality that slowly infuses into the players over time working with him. (Ever notice how very few of our players know how to tackle in a 50-50?)

But he needs really quickly to teach the players how to switch to a different way of playing mid-game. The worrying thing is that he has never acknowledged the problem. After the Newcastle game, he said we'd learned lessons from the previous games. But we patently hadn't, and the lessons seemed to be about how to fluke last minute winners.

At the end of the season, we'll have to decide whether the Martinez trade-off is a net benefit to us. At the moment, it's really in the balance for me. It's annoying to fail to challenge the top four when you have the squad to do it. It would set the club back years if we ever went down, and that's the real risk under Martinez compared with Moyes.
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Did I stumble onto RAWK there by chance?
 
davek said:
Not in the slightest.

Anyone who cant see progress in this team needs their head feeling.
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Defending. Where is the progress there? Corners? Set pieces?

We are great fun to watch attacking at the moment. But when the goals dry up (you say they invariably will banging on how Leicester cant sustain their form) you have to defend. What Everton are you watching can defend if we Lukaku loses form?
 
Whistlin' Dixie said:
Change the friggin' record fafs.

Last week it was "beat newcastle" - until it became: "beat newcastle AND stoke..."

And so we got a last-gasp winner against newcastle - and then got beat by stoke. Marvellous. :(

You really should change your user name to @Jamtomorrow.
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We're in decent shape. Feel frustrated? So do I. Feel like making everything seem like its all doom and gloom? Leave me out of your misery guts assessment.
 

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