Roberto Martinez discussion

[Ihaters]

Not just about today though is it.

True, people have been ignoring his positive contributions all season.

 

[Elong]

You name 4 genuinely world class players followed by Cleverly, Coleman, McCarthy.. Regardless of the rest of the quality of which there is plenty, that is more than most teams could hope to get close to having.

I think they're good players, not great. Coleman can't defend, never has been able to, in fact Baines is the same especially with dealing with crosses. McCarthy hasn't been consistent, Cleverly we all ridiculed until he put blue on.

There's quality, I'm not downplaying our side, but our squad has Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert in it.

 

[TheAlmightyFloater]

He's not getting sacked this season unless we lose every game remaining and end up just outside the relegation zone (and maybe not even then).

 

[Allezfan]

We defended well two days ago.

We didn't really, though.

We pressed really well in midfield and with our full backs which stopped newcastle building attacks but we also gave away three free headers.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

There's definitely something to be said for team cohesion and playing for eachother, something Leicester are doing right now. There's a spine about them. We'll get there.

I don't think some players especially lukaku will be with us for too much longer. We needed to get there this season and it doesn't look good on that front. We missed a great opportunity . How can supposedly top defenders consistently mess up .How can he back playing the worst keeper in the league. How can he back his decision to play kone who hasn't played well in 6 matches. How could he not see bringing besic on instead on kone when we went up was not the right call. Cannot understand these decisions or lack of. He's not learning from his previous mistakes. He won't last. Unfortunately

 

[Elong]

But they still keep getting picked mate.
No sane manager would pick howard and after our circus defending any sane manager would sort the problem.
We are weak from the chairman down and some players know it

Don't reckon it's a good excuse to not step up if the boss is poor. Should be the opposite in fact.

 

[Allezfan]

One of the truly great british works of fiction.

 

[Pacman]

People saying who is out there did people know who Pochettino was before he turned up at Southampton? Or Flores at Watford?

You had managers like Tuchel before going to dortmund, Koeman at Southampton hell even Pardew and Hughes are doing better jobs with lesser sides. We have seen in 18 months the leaky defence hasn't changed, something that was the case throughout his time at Wigan.

It's just inexcusable, going into the stats of no back to back wins in months, the amount conceded and the 3 wins in 12 against the 3 bottom clubs. Anyone who can't see we have a manager who is a lovely bloke but can't organise a defence is living in the clouds. Baines, coleman, jags and Howard all have been solid down the years and look average, you have £50 million pound man Stones and Mori, add in 2 holding midfielders yet we still concede over 1.5 goals per game. I'm really losing interest again this season and it's down to frustration of having a boss side criminally underachieving which is down to poor management.

Call me a moaner etc I couldn't call less I'll just sit back smugly when the same people open their eyes come may when we finish 11th again.

 

[helpimonfire]

Bobby had gotta go.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

How dare you, we're 11th.

Quality. At least Martinez is in familiar territory in the bottom half of the table.

 

[TheFinnFan]

We didn't really, though.

We pressed really well in midfield and with our full backs which stopped newcastle building attacks but we also gave away three free headers.

So are you saying Stones and Mori are crap?

 

[Allezfan]

People saying who is out there did people know who Pochettino was before he turned up at Southampton? Or Flores at Watford?.

Flores beat the rs in a european semi final.

I for one am petty and bitter enough to remember him from that.

 

[Allezfan]

So are you saying Stones and Mori are crap?

I'm saying we haven't had a good defensive performance with the two of them playing together, yes.

 

[sageyefc]

Bobby had gotta go.

Go where mate?

 

[Shagster]

We're 3 points behind Man United, let's think about that too

Ok I have for about 30 secs and without them changing managers - will not be top 4. Thing is they probably will change the manager