Roberto Martinez discussion

Dexter · December 28, 2015

toffee matt said:
That was indefensible today.

Tactics and Sub's when leading were negiligant. Defensive unit was none existent and Howard was discraceful as usual.

That's my biggest issue with him, he's so negligent, how can you be considered even a half decent manager when you neglect fundamental areas of football

Kiwi · December 28, 2015

ianefc said:
But you did think it was witty.

I'm not getting into it with you as you'll start writing in capitals.

Oh diddums mate. Have a try anyway, humour me

n01efc · December 28, 2015

He has to go now unless he admits we need defenders and a keeper

paulbefc · December 28, 2015

Completely outplayed a massively in-form Stoke there comfortably without hitting top gear at any point bar the turnaround for 3-2. The performance we put in in every department bar defence should have been enough to see a good side off comfortably. The problem remains the same. A 19 year old centre back having to fill in at left back due to an exceptionally unfortunate LB injury situation and a massively inexperienced centre back pairing, due to an injury.

ALL we have to do is get the first choice back 4 back together. We haven't had the chance to put it out once this season and have often had 3/4 of it injured. It's unbelievably frustrating and it's ruined our first half of the season. It's not over yet, mind. If we tighten up at the back we will win game after game after game. We've got the attacking side down. We just need to (please, God) not see Galloway and the Stones-Mori partnership in the league for a long time.

When the actual [Poor language removed] is Jagielka back ffs? I can't watch us with this defence any more. You can't have 3/4 of your defence having an average age of 21 in the premier league.

DanEFC92 · December 28, 2015

Allezfan said:
He played really well in both games, though.

I disagree that he played well today. Lost ball for their third, too.

Mrk · December 28, 2015

How long do we blindly have to put up with this [Poor language removed]?

Allezfan · December 28, 2015

thirdmantackle said:
Would fans/owners of any other top 10 club accept the last two seasons of mediocrity?

Do those guys benefit from switching their managers every year?

chicoazul · December 28, 2015

Jxg said:
Forget the fans, he isn't going to get time with the players.

Do you genuinely believe Lukaku will stay if we continue on like this? Stones? Deulofeu? Maybe Barkley will be different but these guys aren't going to be happy with what's happening week in, week out.

And they'll stay if we fire Martinez?

You haven't thought this through mate. It's why I'm here to help you all.

dannyboy · December 28, 2015

Ihaters said:
No mate, we have been 4th to 8th for most of a decade.. we just finished 11th and don't look odds on to do much better this season, today we lost 4-3 to stoke and have conceded 18 in 10 games.. This is not normal for us, this is not an historical pattern, this is a new level of poor at the back, combined with a new level of quality up front as our CF is now the highest scorer in the league.

This is exactly what everyone that saw a team Martinez managed before Everton, told everyone that hadn't seen a team Martinez had managed before us would happen. We would attack well but defend abysmally..

The only thing doing this sort of crap forever is our manager. So yeah its his fault.

This is the most concerning thing for me. We are dropping out of that group, and it will impact upon retaining players like Lukaku.

There's absolutely no reason why we should be falling. People are saying it's because the other teams have got better with more money, but we should have done as well.

The likes of Stoke have been matching up in the transfer market for years anyway. We still outperformed them.

LouReedwalkonthewildside · December 28, 2015

daz4matty said:
They would drop howard for a start.
There are loads of managers out there who could do better with this squad.
Watford found a good manager for a start

We don't know if a new manager would drop Howard (even though he should be)
It's easy to say there are loads of managers out there who could do a better job.
Can't really judge Sánchez Flores after half a season in the prem.

Saint Domingo · December 28, 2015

Allezfan said:
He played really well in both games, though.

Barry is decent on the ball but honestly how anyone can say that the holding midfielder has played well when we concede 4 at home s beyond me. Roberto was clearly not serious when he said that if he'd had more options Barry would have been rotated after he was poor last season.

ianefc · December 28, 2015

Kiwi said:
Oh diddums mate. Have a try anyway, humour me

What do you want me to say?

Boss_Blue · December 28, 2015

Allezfan said:
He played really well in both games, though.

Thought he played well myself.

chicoazul · December 28, 2015

I hope that when your Geordie hate campaign results in him being fired that you all put your CVs forward for the vacant role.

There's so many "game management" experts on here that Everton can only gain.

Michaelcoyb · December 28, 2015

Ihaters said:
No mate, we have been 4th to 8th for most of a decade.. we just finished 11th and don't look odds on to do much better this season, today we lost 4-3 to stoke and have conceded 18 in 10 games.. This is not normal for us, this is not an historical pattern, this is a new level of poor at the back, combined with a new level of quality up front as our CF is now the highest scorer in the league.

This is exactly what everyone that saw a team Martinez managed before Everton, told everyone that hadn't seen a team Martinez had managed before us would happen. We would attack well but defend abysmally..

The only thing doing this sort of crap forever is our manager. So yeah its his fault.

So Clattenburg has never screwed as over?

We have never had dodgy penos given against us to beat us?

Oh thats right, Martinez brought that with him from Wigan.