Roberto Martinez discussion

[Tubey]

No mate I want people to take a position of perspective, criticism where it's due and praise also where it's due.
Far too many agendas on here

People do that, but if people have came to the conclusion (not agenda - there are people who have pre-set agendas but not that many, and to be blunt a few have pro Martinez agendas too) that the man isn't good enough to manage us, then they shouldn't kneejerk away from that based on one result to the next.

I'd back Martinez if he gave me reason to. I don't for the same reason I didn't defend Moyes - in exactly the same way that guy was too dour and negative and self-preservationist to take us on to the next level, Martinez is too attack-minded, reckless and lacks pragmatism. We need a middle ground to get the best of the players we have.

Do we have a worse side than Stoke? In my eyes, absolutely not - but we're way more unbalanced as a unit tactically, and that comes from the managerial setup.

 

[ETID88]

No point even discussing it [sacking] Blues.

Our regime wouldn't consider sacking him.

It would be a silly thing to do at this stage anyway.

I don't know what it would take for him to be sacked - as long as we're a top flight team and the season ticket renewals come in, then I can't see our current board ever sacking him.

Unfortunately our board is just as spineless and weak minded as our manager. The word is inept - for both parties.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Really, but Mate the game was literally chucked away.

Yeah but you got to laugh at everyone questioning the manager like they're paid 80K per week to manage in the PL

 

[nsno-chris]

We can't defend and it's not being addressed, that's the crux of the matter.

A defender is there to defend, playing nice football comes second for your back 4, we have it arse about face and this idea of keeping the ball under all circumstances cost us again

 

[edge]

Hands up who thought we would close up shop at 3--2 .
Now put it down because nobody in there right mind thinks this gobshite knows how to do it

 

[Azza]

Regardless of his charm or praise for people and players, the massive money coming into the PL that the club will get if our best players get interest in the summer they'll be gone because we're not going to win anything with Martinez in charge.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

75% of the blame lies at Martinez's door today, he got it wrong big style.

 

[applecrumble]

All the talk is about LVG going after today's game, surely Martinez must be on the same tightrope as him.

Does not learn from past mistakes.

Mediocre is ok for our board

 

[LocalNative]

Do you want him fired now?

Why would I want Jelavic back?

There's a bunch of pissy panted girls on here who take out their personal self loathing on Martinez.

Geordie behaviour and you'll get exactly what you deserve: Newcastle.

FIRE HIM! HIRE HIM! SIGN ALL THE FIFA PLAYERZ.

Surely some questions have to be asked though mate? Should be doing so much better with the players at his disposal. And certainly shouldn't be shipping 4 at home to Stoke.

 

[longers]

It feels like the best Everton squad in my adult life is being wasted away.

 

[quasi modo]

Can't work out if martinez is clueless or stupid.
Groundhog day over and over and over.
Wigan mark 2 with better players

I worked with a lad who followed Wigan, he said Martinez was stubborn and wouldn't change his way of playing, injuries forced his hand to changing formations.

 

[Kiwi]

So angry you simply had to react by questioning those who react whilst using witty terms offered up by other posters. Back to bed mate, we get it you're made up with Martinez. You have nothing more to offer.

Oh sorry mate. Just because someone used something that I think is an appropriate description doesn't mean I can't use it as well.
I'm not made up with Martinez, I think there are issues he needs to resolve. But I also think theres more positives than negatives in his tenure and that's why I'm posting in here.

 

[larrygobfiend]

The amount of points we've thrown away is frightening. I'd be happy to see us try and park the bus when we get a lead, especially late in the game like today.

I like Martinez and I like the football being played, but he just doesn't seem to learn any lessons. It's happening every single game!

 

[daza_1973]

Bottom line - His making or breaking is the semi's against City - if we come through it (which seems difficult to conceive right now) he will earn his right to see the season out and see what happens - If we fall to city the fume on here will Bhopal-esque....

 

[quasi modo]

Mediocre is ok for our board

Plus we got to a Semi final