Roberto Martinez discussion

[daz4matty]

And what did he do whilst you were watching him to bring you to this conclusion?

Came off his line and commanded his area.
Doug is lost when it comes to keepers

 

[Dithering Dougie]

And what did he do whilst you were watching him to bring you to this conclusion?

Poor handling, rash decisions, poor positioning, poor distribution and general panicking with a real obvious lack of coordination.

You know all round useless.

 

[davek]

Why does Martinez keep picking him then? He's had five transfer windows to get a new one. I am fairly certain he will pass up a 6th as well.

Beats me.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Came off his line and commanded his area.
Doug is lost when it comes to keepers

He's lost when it comes to football.

 

[riddick]

Galloway: you're forgetting how well he tracks back and competes physically with the opposition. He's definitely a better defender than Baines (which isn't a great claim like given how ropey Baines has always been defending his own box and positionally all told).

Pienaar: staggered at that comment mate. He was always in close proximity to Baines and if it broke down higher up the pitch he was there mopping up. No question he dug Baines out loads of times and allowed him to attack as much.

So you're saying he's Tony Hibbert? Because I will. He's solid defensively and very very limited attacking wise.


edit: it feels weird saying that but I miss seeing him in the squad. Shame he's perma-crocked.

 

[Shagster]

Mirallas is halfway out the door, imo. He'll want first team football with Euro2016 looming.

Its a shame - is it mis management of a difficult individual or has he been a nightmare behind the scenes and not performing in training?

 

[riddick]

Its a shame - is it mis management of a difficult individual or has he been a nightmare behind the scenes and not performing in training?

Didnt even look that fussed after he scored yesterday. Then again, he should have been on at halftime (or started).

 

[DanEFC92]

Poor handling, rash decisions, poor positioning, poor distribution and general panicking with a real obvious lack of coordination.

You know all round useless.

Yeah I know Howard is, but what about Robles?

hehe

 

[davek]

So you're saying he's Tony Hibbert? Because I will. He's solid defensively and very very limited attacking wise.


edit: it feels weird saying that but I miss seeing him in the squad. Shame he's perma-crocked.

He's a more complete player than Hibbert. He combines well going forward, something Hibbert could never be accused of!

 

[davek]

Its a shame - is it mis management of a difficult individual or has he been a nightmare behind the scenes and not performing in training?

Not sure about his training, but defo seems to have been a nightmare to manage.

I was amazed he stayed and signed a contract extension.

 

[ianefc]

@Fat Stan created a monster. What a thread.

 

[DanEFC92]

Didnt even look that fussed after he scored yesterday. Then again, he should have been on at halftime (or started).

No one ever looks fussed after they've scored a consolation goal.

 

[riddick]

No one ever looks fussed after they've scored a consolation goal.

With ~5 minutes left to get back into the match, you'd like to think they looked a little fussed.

 

[Saint Domingo]

@Fat Stan created a monster. What a thread.

In a way the absolute disparity of opinion on here sums up the Martinez tenure thus far. Flashes of brilliance giving you hope that something great could happen but the constant reminder that it probably never will with our defensive play, choice of goalkeeper, lack of goals from midfield, and lack of pace in the team.

For me, we seem to need to be able to be perfect to get the points. I'm fully expecting us to thrash someone 7-0 soon and it will be hailed as the masterpiece of modern football but if we're not at our best we don't have the basics to win at any sort of regularity. Over the course of a league season you are destined for a mid table showing. It does give you some hope in the cups though and sadly that seems to be all that is left this season.

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

Relevance, sir?

How many goals have we shipped when we've had Baines & Coleman playing, and against who? And, more to the point, what have been our results? Have we won a game with them both playing?

Have results improved? No.

Has the defence improved? No.

Does it look like things are about to improve? No.

So they both play for two full games together and now Martinez has ruined them? Don't be silly Baines has been out for 7 MONTHS! I know we all would have liked to have him at full strength right away but obviously he needs to play himself back in form. Also I would argue due to his form last season I wouldn't consider him to the level (Baines that is) that he normally has been and thusly your criticism smacks more of desperation pot shots at Martinez.