Roberto Martinez discussion

banno · December 20, 2015

jazzy said:
no but what about Funes Mori , Kone and Mc Geady?

Mori has been here 5 mins and looking decent, Kone was out injured for over a season and once he came back fully fit he helped Roms game....he has slipped away recently. McGeady cost next to nothing and therefore was worth a punt and became a squad filler which was needed. Galloway was a good signing. Rom and McCarthy were the ones that cost serious money and if they were to leave now how much would we get compared to outlay.

bluestevon · December 20, 2015

davek said:
Yeah, I agree he should be taken in and out, but should be starting the majority of games now. It's his place to lose rather than for it to be handed to Baines on a player just because he's the senior player.

Galloway should not start over Baines mate, to state he should is ignoring how good a player Baines is and has been for us and overrating how good Galloway has been - he has played very well for a 19yo lad, a few quite bad games in their as well though lets not forget. To state otherwise is absolute nonsense

Dithering Dougie · December 20, 2015

Coffee and TV said:
Thing is though he's clearly not going to. No matter what Howard does he's untouchable, despite us having a better option on the bench. If this isn't explained by us bringing in a new keeper in January (which I don't think we will do) then I think I'll have had it with Martinez and his stubbornness. We're playing a weakened team for no reason.

Robles is useless and no sane manager would deliberately play a weekend team every week out of stubbornness.

davek · December 20, 2015

hktoffee said:
We need Euro to keep them happy. CL if possible.

Maybe. I think the manager might be a pull for them though. If they have massive bids come in for them then it wont matter, but if not they wont agitate for a move I dont think.

bluestevon · December 20, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Robles is useless and no sane manager would deliberately play a weekend team every week out of stubbornness.

Why so negative and slating towards one of our players mate? shouldn't you be getting behind Robles - the same way you support Howard

davek · December 20, 2015

bluestevon said:
Galloway should not start over Baines mate, to state he should is ignoring how good a player Baines is and has been for us and overrating how good Galloway has been - he has played very well for a 19yo lad, a few quite bad games in their as well though lets not forget. To state otherwise is absolute nonsense

No mate, it's the difference between a player who suits the team as a defender and one who is better going forward (a quality we're not short of right now). It's all about blend and Baines with Kone/Mirallas ahead of him is a recipe for weakness at the back.

daz4matty · December 20, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Robles is useless and no sane manager would deliberately play a weekend team every week out of stubbornness.

We have 2 poor keepers but howard is a joke.
Howard is so scared its unbelievable.

Dithering Dougie · December 20, 2015

bluestevon said:
Why so negative and slating towards one of our players mate? shouldn't you be getting behind Robles - the same way you support Howard

He's the poorest keeper I've seen for us, I can't hide that.

daz4matty · December 20, 2015

davek said:
No mate, it's the difference between a player who suits the team as a defender and one who is better going forward (a quality we're not short of right now). It's all about blend and Baines with Kone/Mirallas ahead of him is a recipe for weakness at the back.

Maybe its an idea to sort the left side in front of the full back.
When we played bournemouth poor galloway got ripped to pieces

bluestevon · December 20, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
He's the poorest keeper I've seen for us, I can't hide that.

Richard Wright says thanks for that thinking

daz4matty · December 20, 2015

bluestevon said:
Richard Wright says thanks for that thinking

So does brave timmy coward

davek · December 20, 2015

daz4matty said:
Maybe its an idea to sort the left side in front of the full back.
When we played bournemouth poor galloway got ripped to pieces

I think we've come to the end of Kone as a starter, tbh. There again, is Mirallas an upgrade on the defensive side of things?

I'd have Cleverley in there for now, but look to move Mirallas on and use the cash to get another young Pienaar in there...if they exist!

hktoffee · December 20, 2015

bluestevon said:
Richard Wright says thanks for that thinking

Paul Gerrard?

daz4matty · December 20, 2015

davek said:
I think we've come to the end of Kone as a starter, tbh. There again, is Mirallas an upgrade on the defensive side of things?

I'd have Cleverley in there for now, but look to move Mirallas on and use the cash to get another young Pienaar in there...if they exist!

I agree about kone because its just not working.
I would go with kev at home and tom away but i agree we need a pienaar esque player in but i would not sell kev

Dithering Dougie · December 20, 2015

bluestevon said:
Richard Wright says thanks for that thinking

Yeah there's been a few. But this fella takes the biscuit.

There's no way he's up to it because there's been plenty of opportunities last season to replace Howard and Martinez clearly didn't take them. Like I said there's no way he'd risk his career on backing Howard over Robles (a player he bought) over some petty stubborn streak.