Roberto Martinez discussion

[By god I'm blue]

Proper lol at anybody who thinks we play this amazing brand of football! It's nothing out of the ordinary, really!

 

[davek]

In my observation, you, my friend, have been the most adept negotiator of shifting ground and straw man argumenting on this forum. Sorry pal, but in poker parlance, I'm calling you, and what you're holding in your hand is a bluff
example:
Big win for us. 3-0.

• They will be taken seriously (half the success they've had is through opposition underestimating them)
• We've got the sort of mobile defence that will snuff out their threat on the break
• They're missing two of their five ever-presents - Drinkwater and Huth. Drinkwater, in particular, will be a massive miss as he's the pivot of that side from defence to attack
• They're really not that good. The defence looks suspect, and with Huth absent it'll only get more flakey.
• We are VERY tough to beat, as the form guide will tell you.
• We are in the middle of a run of form that creates lots of chances and sooner or later they'll again (S'land/Villa) end up being taken and burying some team.

We'll win this for sure. The only question is by how much. Leicester are coming down to earth with a massive bump tomorrow.

You're carrying that quotation around like it's the ten commandments.

I'm flattered like, but even I dont think I'm God.

 

[Dexter]

When do we say that enough is enough with Martinez? I think 3 seasons is a good enough amount of time in the modern game to judge a manager on.

He will rightly so be given the time left on his contract, lets just hope that it's not renewed.

Mind you, he'll be in deep water when players start leaving.

 

[Azza]

...but rallying late on to land a haymaker to grab the belt.

YERRSSSS the midtable belt! Is right.

 

[davek]

Because results are garbage, all you do is relentlessly bang on about our amazing style of football.Here's some news for you! This amazing style of football is getting us nowhere and we don't win many games, fact! As our old bearded Spanish waiter once said.
Yes we are in a semi final after beating 3 lower league teams and scraping past Norwich, all amazing and groundbreaking stuff!in this post you are still harping on about his first season, as it's all you have to offer. You call others "Moyes acolytes" as if he is the only other alternative. Do the words "broken record" strike a chord with you?

I prefer to call it evangelism.

 

[davek]

YERRSSSS the midtable belt! Is right.

It's not as good as the 7th place trophy like, but we are still rebuilding.

 

[deipnosophist]

Were I Chairman at Everton, I'd retain Martinez as a football director. There's no doubt he has the Catalan charm to attract players. But, were I chairman, I'd get a new manager to actually coach them. I appreciate that @davek ROFL's at such presumptuous HR action, but I question whether he's ever had to hire and fire.

 

[WarringtonBlue]

we also were known throughout the country to be great and one of the bets at developing young players under Moyes though mate, reality was far from that, we were not a long ball team for large period under moyes, unless you think we used to hoof it up to arteta, osman and pienaar?

Not sure about developing youth, getting amazing transfers on a bargain yes

 

[bluestevon]

Moyes' signature move: shuffle ball up to half way line > long diagonal to the edge of the opposition box > win the header and hopefully second ball...rinse and repeat.

There was, of course, the Baines/Pienaar partnership. That kept the opposition guessing when the hoof would finally come.

Everyone in the PL knew what they were getting with Moyes' teams: a hard working bunch of players coming at them who were utterly clueless when plan A hit the buffers,

The bolded bit could equally be a thing said about Martinez mate

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

but even I dont think I'm God.

I should coco an all....How dare anyone claim to be me

 

[By god I'm blue]

I prefer to call it evangelism.

Yes, ignore all the rest of the post because you know I am right.

Mid table, insipid, clueless, non productive football now for 15 months with the best squad we have had in years.

 

[deipnosophist]

I prefer to call it evangelism.

...cultism?

 

[bluestevon]

Not sure about developing youth, getting amazing transfers on a bargain yes

Moyes was terrible with youth mate, but the impression the media always gave was that he was a genius in this regard

 

[degsy]

We can be a contender.

cherry picking your bits of quotes now as well as your stats
Martinez coulda been somebody, instead of what he is...a bottom...well in his case middle table

 

[deipnosophist]

You're carrying that quotation around like it's the ten commandments.

I'm flattered like, but even I dont think I'm God.

that's good...because you most certainly aren't