Roberto Martinez discussion

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maccavennie said:
Yep under this board there's no way he's getting sacked. I do think another poor finish in the league though could be his undoing with the fans.

If he wins a cup though mate, well that's a different story altogether because that could be the catalyst for driving us forward.

He's certainly not immune to criticism though mate which I think is some people's gripe because when they [Poor language removed] him off everyone defends him too much. Sometimes we all just have to agree he's been a tit, picked the wrong side, wrong subs, hasn't set us up balance wise but we move on.

Unbelievably we are still only a couple of wins away from 4th but I've pretty much given up on the league anyway as I can't see anything changing unless we finally string 2 wins together. It's the league cup which is priority for me personally.
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I refrain from the obvious criticism over defeats. From day one here he's had to deal with a lot of rubbish as he's dragged this clubs team back to being a football team and not an embarrassment. Will he get things wrong along the way? Yes. But he's done magnificently in turning this club around to face in the right direction. Now we stand on the cusp of something special. It's time for Evertonians to get behind this team and manager and give them 100% belief and support.
 
streeky said:
Wow twitter has gone into complete meltdown. RM quoted after the game that losing 3 goals was disappointing but we should win if we score 2 at home. General consensus is Frick off Martinez and take Howard with ya.
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Refusing to be honest with the fan base is coming back to haunt him. It's all well and good chatting crap when you're doing well, but it's doubly infuriating when the results are bad.
 

Tubey said:
Refusing to be honest with the fan base is coming back to haunt him. It's all well and good chatting crap when you're doing well, but it's doubly infuriating when the results are bad.
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Alan Ball himself said it, " You can't kid Evertonians. "
 

On today's game:
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Big win for us. 3-0.

  • They will be taken seriously (half the success they've had is through opposition underestimating them)
  • We've got the sort of mobile defence that will snuff out their threat on the break
  • They're missing two of their five ever-presents - Drinkwater and Huth. Drinkwater, in particular, will be a massive miss as he's the pivot of that side from defence to attack
  • They're really not that good. The defence looks suspect, and with Huth absent it'll only get more flakey.
  • We are VERY tough to beat, as the form guide will tell you.
  • We are in the middle of a run of form that creates lots of chances and sooner or later they'll again (S'land/Villa) end up being taken and burying some team.
We'll win this for sure. The only question is by how much. Leicester are coming down to earth with a massive bump tomorrow.
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Sorry Dave, your perspicacity on prosaic thing (a football game),is as figuratively foundered on reef as the rest of us. I hope you don't mind us seriously questioning your perspicacity on other matters .
 
Interestingly, it looks as if Leicester are playing football at its simplest and are beating a whole stack of teams making it more difficult than it needs to be.

Quick, energetic strikers pressing defenders and getting early balls from a no-nonsense defence. The defence presses the wide men and block crosses, and the centre halves [Poor language removed] the thing when it comes to them. Midfielders make tackles and get it forward. Keeper comes out and catches it.

It's the simplest form of football, but somewhere along the line the league's super-technical managers have forgotten how to beat it.

It's a little off topic, but it looks pretty plainly obvious that in a battle of "styles" today, Leicester's was clearly more effective. And we ain't the first team to discover that this season.
 

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