Roberto Martinez discussion

[daz4matty]

But Match of the Day said they played football 'the right way'

I know just look where they are today mate

 

[fozzy]

He took wigan down waving the white flag though

Was holding the fa cup in his other hand though so its OK.

FFS!

 

[daz4matty]

He kept a team with Emerson Boyce in it in the premier league for consecutive seasons.

He took them down waving the white flag though.
Whilst on the way down he never changed a thing just shut his eyes to it

 

[KevMirallas]

It's close, and it will click completely soon. I still trust Martinez, but he badly needs to do away with his Howard loyalty. It's costing me my sanity as much as anything.

 

[paulbefc]

He's also taken a team with Romelu Lukaku in it to 5 wins in 17, despite him scoring 13 league goals in 17 games

He also smashed our record points total in 2013/14.

 

[Axlswhk]

more hyperbole. you want to talk about basic football while glossing over the fact our most experience defender who also happens to be the team captian would make a difference for us in terms of holding onto leads and committing silly mistakes?

We have jags and stone playing together for much part of the season and yet we're still shipping in goals. It's the whole defensive structure and the approach that counts. A good defensive setup is not heavily dependent on center back to solve all problems. In fact, the center back should not even be in a position to expose to silly mistakes as often as we've seen now. If we sort out our defensive structure and defend further up the pitch, our center back will more likely pick up loose balls than struggling to cope with striker bursting away running at goals or lunging themselves to block shots desperately.

 

[orly]

I know just look where they are today mate

He actually has managed to do a worse job than Steve Bruce.

Steve Bruce.

Incredible.

 

[daz4matty]

He also smashed our record points total in 2013/14.

And in his 3rd season we have 5 wins up to christmas coming along nicely eh

 

[Shagster]

But Match of the Day said they played football 'the right way'

Yep but the 'game management' was suspect as well

 

[paulbefc]

He took them down waving the white flag though.
Whilst on the way down he never changed a thing just shut his eyes to it

Aye, he should have used the immense resources he had at his disposal there to avoid what was a shocking relegation for a club of their size. The fact they've bounced back so quickly shows he hadn't a clue what he was doing.

 

[orly]

He also smashed our record points total in 2013/14.

SMASHED IT

... by seven points, finished 5th.

Phenomenal.

 

[ianefc]

You're ridiculous. I actually can't take you seriously anymore.

At least admit his shortcomings.

You're too far gone to ever backtrack on your Pro-Martinez agenda.

It's been that way for months. He's just fun to prod about a year ago It was clear he had Martinez as more important than Everton (because he wanted him from the get go) and now it's clear he can't back down as no genuine Evertonian could be happy with the results.

 

[hktoffee]

He also smashed our record points total in 2013/14.

That was two years (seasons) ago though. We are taking about the current season and his records from two years ago do not have any relationship to the current run.

Even we win the next two, 7 wins out of 19 is still poor. Mid-lower table form that is.

 

[daz4matty]

Aye, he should have used the immense resources he had at his disposal there to avoid what was a shocking relegation for a club of their size. The fact they've bounced back so quickly shows he hadn't a clue what he was doing.

He took them down and just stood there looking lost.

 

[paulbefc]

He actually has managed to do a worse job than Steve Bruce.

Steve Bruce.

Incredible.

Do Wigan fans see it this way?