Roberto Martinez discussion

davek · December 19, 2015

toffeejack said:
anyone know why odds are suspended on howe being our next manager on PP? that was before today's match btw,

Because there's no new manager coming in?

daz4matty · December 19, 2015

Blue Cheese said:
Yeah but look how much our back 4 has been depleted this year. Stones might be the next messiah but he is still only 21 and learning his position, we are not infallible.

I have faith that it will click sooner or later. We were very good today, Leicester took their chances, I bet there isn't many Leicester fans who don't think they did a smash n grab today because they did. Good luck to them.

We will have to agree to disagree mate.
You think he is taking us forwards and i think the opposite

toffeejack · December 19, 2015

we moan we haven't won a trophy for 20 years, so a manager gets us to a semi and you guys want him sacked and for someone else to come in and try and win the cup .... OK.

Fearthainn · December 19, 2015

Titus Bramble said:
Why are people claiming we lost to a poor side? They're 5 points clear at the top of the table ffs

They may be top of the table but we gifted them 3 goals.

loooweee · December 19, 2015

Martinez will try a new formation or something? Shake it up

Titus Bramble · December 19, 2015

Fearthainn said:
They may be top of the table but we gifted them 3 goals.

Indeed we did

Blue Cheese · December 19, 2015

daz4matty said:
We will have to agree to disagree mate.
You think he is taking us forwards and i think the opposite

I didn't say that, I said I see improvement in the footballing side of things and so I'm extending my grace. I'm by no means saying he's not without his faults.

chicoazul · December 19, 2015

His comments after the game are a bit mad like.

Martinez: We had complete control of the game and twice we punished ourselves.

(on the booing at the end of the game) "The fans pay their money an are fully entitled to feel frustrated. We have to be in a position to fix this but right now I am sure the majority of fans see what we are building for tomorrow and how exciting that can be. The true Everton fans see this."

USABlue · December 19, 2015

Blue Cheese said:
Doesn't say that though does it. Read posts properly in context.

Who's fault are individual errors then mate?

Martinez obviously told mori to fall on that Leicester forward in the box...

daz4matty · December 19, 2015

Fearthainn said:
They may be top of the table but we gifted them 3 goals.

We gift every team goals an still the same players play week in week out

Toffeelover · December 19, 2015

Fearthainn said:
They may be top of the table but we gifted them 3 goals.

We have been doing that quite a bit lately, very generous we are.

USABlue · December 19, 2015

chicoazul said:
His comments after the game are a bit mad like.

I mean we were in control and gifted them two pens

Ashtonian · December 19, 2015

something needs to change. I said I would judge martinez at Christmas and the verdict isn't as bad as it was 10 months ago.

We are in danger of running into moyed territory where we just throw the same players with the same tactics every week and hope for the best. We have been good offensively, but that means nothing if the other team can score past us no matter how bad they are!

We need to balance the team and we need to sort the defense out. There is no point scoring 2-3 goals if we are conceding more and for the love of god could martinez work on our weaknesses. It is so frustrating to see us attack well and concede easy every week, a better manager would see this and work on improving that.

All in all has martinez improved as a a manager? Yes he has, and offensively we are better, creating chances for our striker when he is facing the right way. That is a massive improvement from last season's debacle. But the same old weakness of martinez is there, same as it was at Wigan.

I know we aren't sacking martinez and I'm not calling for that, but if our defense isn't changing after all these dropped points then how are we meant to progress? We are in danger of treading water with a team capable of so much more, change things please Roberto, you clearly can do that.

and for the record losing to these today isn't a doom and gloom for me, considering they are the best in the league right now.