Roberto Martinez discussion

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I'm not Martinez-out as I don't see an obvious get-able alternative. Moyes wouldn't come back and a lot of fans wouldn't accept him.

Moyes managed to get 60 points or so every season out of a far worse squad. He also finished above every club we could have expected to do so in every season.

I don't see this one hitting 50 points which is frankly pathetic.
 

davek said:
Not even arsed about being midtable. I want a trophy in the cabinet. If we dont get it this season and finish 6th I'll shrug and say 'so what?'

So from that you can see how bizarre I'd find the fumageddon here from the posters who never post unless there's a defeat.
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No. Those people stop moaning and gave the manager the chance to amend but you see what happens in the last few games? The easy games are running out now.
 
He took a big gamble not getting the players he needed in in the summer, he had a chance to get rid of some dead wood and didn't, only got himself to blame, his philosophy is severly flawed in the prem
 
davek said:
Not even arsed about being midtable. I want a trophy in the cabinet. If we dont get it this season and finish 6th I'll shrug and say 'so what?'

So from that you can see how bizarre I'd find the fumageddon here from the posters who never post unless there's a defeat.
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When does RM as manager become indefensible Dave? What criteria do you put on his standing as the continuing manager?
 
davek said:
Well, there's some who adore Stones. he's good but I've never been totally sold on him, tbh.

If we had to lose one next summer I'd take £50M for Stones no questions asked.
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Nope. If i had to lose any player it would be McCarthy but I wouldn't lose any of them because they're going to be boss
 

daz4matty said:
It happens game after game mate and nothing gets sorted.
The manager is there to sort problems and drop players who should not be in the team yet martinez just seems to shut his eyes and hope for the best.
It was the same last season until the crowd told him where he was going wrong
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Last season I wanted him gone, the football was terrible, it isn't this year, i just think it needs to click.

I want attacking football, conceding goals is a part of that, giving stupid goals away and daft mistakes are not something you can coach on a training ground.

A balance needs to be found between definsive solidity and attacking prowess but if it was that easy we would all be Alex Ferguson wouldn't we.

We have a good squad and because of the way we are playing I'm extending my grace. I like how we are playing. You can't win em all like.
 
mythbuster said:
Not up anyones backside.

Absolute nonsense post, we're not in League 1, and I suspect dave would change his views if we were. Vilifying somebody (trying to make out it's creepy) for backing OUR manager is just not on imo.
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I think you have written the creepiest post of the week.
Be your own man let davek debate his one sided view himself
 

Blue Cheese said:
Last season I wanted him gone, the football was terrible, it isn't this year, i just think it needs to click.

I want attacking football, conceding goals is a part of that, giving stupid goals away and daft mistakes are not something you can coach on a training ground.

A balance needs to be found between definsive solidity and attacking prowess but if it was that easy we would all be Alex Ferguson wouldn't we.

We have a good squad and because of the way we are playing I'm extending my grace. I like how we are playing. You can't win em all like.
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We are playing some great footie in patches and some awful footie in patches.
We make the same mistakes week after week and don't learn from them.
The manager is too scared to drop howard and only 5 wins all season with this squad is scary
 
orly said:
Ignoring the finances, if you had to lose one of Stones, Jagielka and Funes Mori, surely it would be in reverse order of priority?
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You cant ignore finances though, or reality. Stones staying in the summer was a pyrrhic victory. He's getting off next summer, no question...and that's regardless of our season.
 
5 games in a row Kone picked to start and stunk the gaff out, been subbed 4 times I those 5 games as well.

But he'll start again next match you can bet your house on it.

There are no excuses, it's just badly managing a team by Martinez, and it's why Mirallas and Naismith will look to play elsewhere if an offer comes in for them in January.
 

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