Roberto Martinez discussion

Kev The Rat · December 12, 2015

i notice that no ones actually disputing that those two have kept us pretty much afloat

ijjysmith · December 12, 2015

efcjames said:
Even if you don't like him, there's no chance of him getting sacked.

This is the fact.

Zatara · December 12, 2015

2 man team?

Which of these arent among the best in the league in their positions?

Baines
Stones
Jagielka
Coleman
Mccarthy
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

Kev The Rat said:
Look all I am saying is that for all this talk of a side being on the brink of greatness I think we are smoke and mirrors - a 2 man team at best.

TheOldLady · December 12, 2015

It's not like he's got wedge to go out and sort every problem area in the squad ffs

Needed a top striker, Bought Lukaku

Needed pace, Bought Del and Lennon for peanuts

Needed a new CB, bought on Mori

The rest have been frees or cheap risks like Besic or Kone

It's taken him 4 windows to bring in those players and get the back bone of a decent team that players good football most of the time

Be great if we had Utds money so we could get replacements for every position that we needed in one hit but we don't, it takes time

ianefc · December 12, 2015

chicoazul said:
I see this "game management" thing becoming a stick to beat him with and wondering which melt in the media has uttered this for all the simpletons to be mimicking it?

I'm sure a saw SAF mention it a few years ago when he was criticised for bringing Scholes on in his first game back from retirement away at Man City. I'm also sure he's forgot more than you'll ever know about football.

roydo · December 12, 2015

Kev The Rat said:
i notice that no ones actually disputing that those two have kept us pretty much afloat

Jesus wept.

£28m striker and rated Spanish winger create the goals shocker.

Kev The Rat · December 12, 2015

Zatara said:
2 man team?

Which of these arent among the best in the league in their positions?

Baines
Stones
Jagielka
Coleman
Mccarthy
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

Im not disputing that those players aren't decent but we've been leaking goals - not Lukaku and Deulofeu's fault - and scoring quite a few - mainly from that combo

Zatara · December 12, 2015

Im not.

Just seems a waste of time to argue the obvious...

ianefc said:
Their is only @davek offering up opinions on why Martinez is the right man, and fair play to him, the rest who want Martinez are HIDING behind sarcasm and name calling. Bad day for that group, although they will be jumping for joy at the 1-1 'victory'

ianefc · December 12, 2015

zirc said:
I am 100% behind Martinez. I like everything he is doing. I'd be happy to have a couple of years of 7th-10th placed finishes if it meant getting the young players to develop properly.

The problem is I am terrified we won't be able to keep the squad together if we don't make Europe. Our players are getting constantly sniffed around and sold on to money clubs by the media. Will be a huge ask to keep them all from leaving.

Don't be terrified just accept it, if you could guarantee that the players would remain for 24-36 months almost everyone would be tolerable of Martinez

TheOldLady · December 12, 2015

zirc said:
I am 100% behind Martinez. I like everything he is doing. I'd be happy to have a couple of years of 7th-10th placed finishes if it meant getting the young players to develop properly.

The problem is I am terrified we won't be able to keep the squad together if we don't make Europe. Our players are getting constantly sniffed around and sold on to money clubs by the media. Will be a huge ask to keep them all from leaving.

If we lose any of Lukaku/Stones/ Barkley we will get top money and we could see the squad in much better shape

ijjysmith · December 12, 2015

The Mighty Quint said:
This is what I'm talking about, you aren't a great manager if you have stats like this, I'd give Martinez 8/10 for attacking play, and 4/10 for defending, and that's slightly generous.

It's 16 to be frank with the everyone. Dawson at WBA missing off that list.

DualityNSNO · December 12, 2015

Zatara said:
2 man team?

Which of these arent among the best in the league in their positions?

Baines
Stones
Jagielka
Coleman
Mccarthy
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

McCarthy, Coleman, Baines (currently out of form), for example. Stones is amazing, Jags is alright but getting old, Del and Lukaku have won us more points than anyone else out there.