Roberto Martinez discussion

[TommyDavo]

Too often recently.

We need to win a back to back game.

When was the last time that happened?

The manager keeps talking about consistency, so it's good he recognises it. Consistency usually comes with some experience, but there's a lot of that. Howard, Barry, Cleverley, McCarthy, Kone, Baines, Lennon etc...

3 draws is consistency, stop complaining

 

[chicoazul]

What would he have to do for you to think "Yeah, not good enough"

For me, 8th or below (and no cup win) and I'd say twist.

Then that'll be two consecutive seasons we've underperformed.

That would be terrible short termed strategy in our position.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Thank you for confirming my point about impatience in this "ME" generation.

Really?

You want me to dig out the thread you started last season saying you wanted Moyes back?

One sec...

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah it "happens like". Week in week out.

There's this thing called football mate, not sure if you've heard of it or not.
One of the laws of football, and indeed life is that nothing is a sure thing.
Or more succintly put, "sh1t happens" .
We don't have a divine right to win every week.

 

[blue to the bone]

The lack of ability from set pieces both in attack and defence will cost him his job. How we are still discussing this same glaring problem after more than a year is baffling. The potential of this team will be lost if it is not addressed soon.

But would that team be there without him

 

[chicoazul]

I'm getting more alerts that I can keep up with or reply to.

@Ashtonian

 

[ilikecheese]

It's amazing what a better read this place is by putting a few of the usual bells on ignore.

 

[Lowste]

martinez out for me. even if he wins a cup[/QUOTE

 

[DanEFC92]

Thing about having this group of outstanding young talent is that they won't be here for much longer if we remain midtable tosh.

 

[Dexter]

Thinks a game only lasts for 45 minutes because its the same once again.
Only 5 wins all season in the league with these players is nowhere near good enough

He subtracts the minutes that set pieces take up, he doesn't believe in them

 

[Coffee and TV]

Thank you for confirming my point about impatience in this "ME" generation.

The problem is, the players have the same attitude. They're not going to stay because of the teams potential if we finish midtable again and a CL club comes calling.

 

[Kiwi]

How do you maintain momentum when you are unfit and your body is struggling to last 90mins mate.

Hi mate. Do you think that Ross and Rom are carrying excess weight?

 

[Sapie88]

There's this thing called football mate, not sure if you've heard of it or not.
One of the laws of football, and indeed life is that nothing is a sure thing.
Or more succintly put, "sh1t happens" .
We don't have a divine right to win every week.

There's a certain type of fan who thinks that but I shall not mention them in here again.

 

[Pacman]

Something needs to happen, either he needs to work on the defence or he needs to step aside. Far too many draws which mean either a poor attack or poor defensive is cancelling out the strengths of the side, with moyes it was the former with Martinez it's the latter.

If we want top 6 he isn't the man to get it anymore unless he seriously improves the defence as right now his defensive organisation is not on the same level of manager as the likes of Pochettino and Klopp who are our rivals.

 

[paulbefc]

I think Jagielka's injury has cost us. I'm not sure the defence is confident in itself at all. Stones still needs an experienced player alongside him, which is understandable as he's very young.

3 points from the last 3 isn't good enough, but our potential is there for all to see. We could have had 6 or 7 today and with a stronger defence we'd be top 4 and looking like one of the favourites to make it. I think Jagielka coming back will see us improve a lot in that department.

As it stands, we're not out of the race for top 6/4 by any means. For all the points we've dropped, there are still bonus points to be won in January and we're more than capable of doing that. It's just a shame we've made it more difficult for ourselves that it had to be.