John Stones transfer saga

[marty mcfly]

I dont need to provide proof! Im not the one putting out the accusations! I cant prove something that I am saying didnt happen....

I think you are being more than a tad paranoid. You aint the only one either to be fair.

Past history. This isn't the first time. Take your head out of the sand.

 

[Nymzee]

If the request is in and we're letting him go - what do people realistically think we can push them for?

Chelsea have had a relatively quiet summer by their standards so personally I think we can take them for £45m+

 

[Ashtonian]

The loan fee wasn't included.

course it was, we had already paid a few million towards him. Considering chelsea and adhering to FFP, the 28 million was more for their records than ours.

Dont know the exact loan fee amount but it was included.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I feel really sorry for Martinez in all of this.

The lad obviously tried his best but is being shat on by Stones, Jose, The Media, and possibly the board.

To be honest, i thought there was a change in his presser yesterday - was alot stoney faced then normal

 

[ijjysmith]

course it was, we had already paid a few million towards him. Considering chelsea and adhering to FFP, the 28 million was more for their records than ours.

Dont know the exact loan fee amount but it was included.

It wasn't included.

 

[Seanjd]

Could you be any more ridiculous if you tried ?

Apart from anything else John Stones was learning and improving at Everton . He was forgiven for the mistakes he made and was encouraged to play in the right way.
Everton have a good squad and a very good first eleven there is no reason why John Stones could not have at least one more season at the club.
Do you believe somebody at the club forged the name of John Stones on the piece of paper.

Everything you have written here is correct and I agree with. I just think it's quite likely that the bid Everton wanted has come in and their hands have been forced. Don't be personal with your comments by the way.

 

[marty mcfly]

People talking about wages; we got rid of many of our top earners when Fellaini, Moyes, Neville, Eto and Distin left. We get an extra 60 million over two years, every other club is spending, but not Everton, no they're carrying on as if they're just as skint as they were in 2010.

And we are losing another 4 or 5 of them next summer as well.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

A lot of people jumping in his back here. As I said earlier it's a sky source unless I've missed something. We don't even know if this is true or not.

 

[Khalekan]

Jose and Roman versus Bobby and Bill.

It wasnt even a fair fight.

Our guys had knives whilst the bad guys had guns

 

[davek]

I now would never believe a thing this board says.

It's too convient that late in the window a transfer request is handed in. For the 5th time.

This all suggests to me a managed exit.

The things I have heard now look really cynical ploys by EFC.

It's all panned out as @davek said.

Up till the transfer request I believed the board.

Now I firmly believe @davek and we are being asset stripped cynically

But it's being done in a way where the boards hands look clean and they can blame the players for wanting to go.

Good post bizzy.

 

[terraloon]

I find it hard believe that we supposedly have no cash left. Last season was the first year of the new TV deal, in which we received an extra 30million compared to 12/13. We receive an extra 30 million this year as well, compared to before the TV deal. We then have one more year of this TV deal, before the money goes totally insane at the end of the 17/18 season.

If we have no money, then we have supposedly spent an extra 60 million over the past 12 months, which I don't believe is true no matter how many extra millions you want to add to the Gareth Barry deal which was completed last year. How were they planning on buying Yarmolenko if there is no money left? And they plan on building a new stadium as well? We haven't waxed out an extra 60 million in the last 12 months!

In 2013/14 the profit was £28 million which is roughly the sum that was made by selling players and included the first of the 3 years increased revenue from the TV deal.

In 2014/15 there really weren't any player sales of not so on a like for like then it would seem that there is no profit. There will have been a bit more from commercial and a bit less from TV

We don't know what the wage bill will look like but it's hard to believe in that year taking into account the comings and goings that the wages would drop and of course you have to feature into all of it that impact the signings of the likes of Lukaku , Besic and Barry

Balancing cash in against cash out isn't the same as what will be shown in the accounts but £60 million is way too optimistic as to available funds my guess would be a maximum of £10 million and that would easily have reduced significantly following on from what some believe was a free transfer

 

[marty mcfly]

To be honest, i thought there was a change in his presser yesterday - was alot stoney faced then normal

He knew it had all fallen apart. Before the Shaqiri loan fell through he was as happy as a schoolboy at Christmas and at each presser since he has been getting subsequently more miserable as deals have been missed.

You could see there was no positivity at all from him and that's saying something. I felt sorry for him.

 

[Nymzee]

Well how easy would it be for the board to coerce John into putting in a request and subsidising him the fee he losing would lose from going down that route?

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

A lot of people jumping in his back here. As I said earlier it's a sky source unless I've missed something. We don't even know if this is true or not.

How quick where WBA to publicly reject Saido Berahino's request? thats not me being funny, i am genuinely interested if it was hours or days.

We need to make some sort of statement, to stop the media carrying on this pathetic attempt of tapping up... or not successful attempt of tapping up depending on which way it goes.

Silence is a bit deafening though, simple, "request rejected" or "no request given" is all it needs. or alternatively "club accepts £30 million and a dry bumming from chelsea after transfer request"

 

[TraffordBlue]

Andy Gray is loving this isn't he.

Claims he doesn't want it to happen because he's an Evertonian lol.

Have to say there are quite a few of our past "legends" that love to sell our players in the media.