John Stones transfer saga

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the esk said:
So we’ve reached a watershed – perhaps the biggest watershed we’ve ever had.

It’s difficult because we don’t know the real reasons behind Stones’ decision to put in a transfer request. We don’t know how long he’s wanted to leave, the reasons why? and how long the club has known.

So let’s exam the things we do know. The club in public appear to have acted impeccably since the first Chelsea bid – I’ve praised them as I genuinely thought we did not want to sell and he did not want to move.

Now we have to follow through our firm stance and quoted position “he’s not for sale”. Martinez on several occasions (albeit with less certainty as time has gone on), and even John Woods caught on camera on Sunday “I’m not selling, nor is Bill” – I assume he was referring to Stones not his personal holding in Everton….

If we hold firm then Martinez and Stones have to show their professionalism, find a solution and get Stones performing consistently at the level we know he can.

If we don’t stand firm and accept an offer from Chelsea or elsewhere then a huge can of worms are opened.

“We don’t have to sell to buy” – Martinez throughout the summer. The truth, lies or said in ignorance?

If we sell and do not spend, then why? Why do we need to liquidate our prime asset?

If we sell and buy some adequate but not thrilling squad members what does that say about our ambition, our desire to build on what we’ve developed? What does it say to the rest of our young talent about our real ambitions?

What does it say to potential investors? It tells them the club has been managed by asset strippers with limited ambition. That must be reflected in the price of the equity. Allowing Stones to be sold now will be very costly to shareholders as well as supporters that are only interested in the team and performance on the pitch.

It’s a huge few days ahead of the club. The decisions made in this time will say a huge amount about our future direction and prospects.

For the sake of all those that have worn the blue shirt, all those that have stood on the terraces for the last 137 years of our great history, the Board needs to make the right decision. Refuse Stones his move, make the purchases we require for a viable squad this season, seek investment or sell up.
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Excellent post. I am a little shocked he has put in the TR because I thought RM's strong stance had been reinforced by getting Stones on board with a 'not now John' discussion. I still feel that RM's whole strategy will come unstuck if he sells now so he has to tough it out. I just hope the board backs him. As for Stones himself..... Everyone is entitled to strive for better, that is what we want for the whole club. However there is a time and a place. Tell him sorry not now and expect him to do what he is contracted to do.
 

he's made his mind up. Fair enough. There's the door John. Get the best deal we can, when it suits. If that's January, he can sit on the bench until then.
 
Greek Fisherman said:
Martinez playing the game. Very interesting presser.

My read,

Stones & Agent; Want the deal to go ahead.
Martinez; Desperate to keep him.

Comes down to the board. Will they support Robert?

Martinez has been trying to change the mindset. I'll remind you what Moyes said when he bid on Baines and Fellaini.

Asked on Friday if he had sympathy for Martinez, Moyes said: ‘I definitely do. But I also know that if I was the Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for Baines and Fellaini, I would have found it very difficult to keep them.

'I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players.

‘All we can do is our job here. Roberto is in a new job and I am sure he will get to understand how Everton work. I know exactly how Everton work.

Bill and the board probably don't want Stones to leave but could use the money. They also know if Stones goes that Martinez will struggle to keep the Lukaku's, Barkley's etc.. making their "financial life" easier.

Bottom line the next 10 days are going to be massive. The board can take the easy way out or make a real statement. Lets hope they choose the latter and we keep Stones, sign Yarmolenko, Mori etc..
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Posted this last week. Now more relevant then ever. Brace yourselves.
 

Seanjd said:
Published to the press days in advance of the bid? Although the bids have made their way to the press VERY quickly, I honestly think there has been on going negotiations between both clubs throughout this and that their still is. It isn't totally being done through the media.
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Mate you have posted a slew of comments thud evening here and each one is riddled with 'in my opinion' ' I personally think' 'surely' 'clearly'. Yet its all oodted as FACHT. Have you got even a shred of info or evidence that Kenwright has been in cohoots with Chelsea all along? It's tiresome...
 
To those who think Stones will still be an Everton player on Sept 1st; Do you think Bill has the nerve to turn down a potential offer of around £40m?
 

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