John Stones transfer saga

[mein]

The reason this is disappointing is because Stones can't see what Martinez is building. Martinez is buying young, excellent players who aren't getting a fair chance in the first team at their clubs, and adding to it. Lukaku, Deulofeu, Besic, McCarthy, Holgate and then adding to it with experience like Barry, tying down Mirallas. We're building a club up from youngsters with a mixture of experience who will fight for silverware and Champions League places, and Stones wanting to leave is ruining it.

I still think he'll be here when the window closes. There's absolutely no chance he's going to be sold, it's just disappointing.

 

[DrEFC]

So we’ve reached a watershed – perhaps the biggest watershed we’ve ever had.

It’s difficult because we don’t know the real reasons behind Stones’ decision to put in a transfer request. We don’t know how long he’s wanted to leave, the reasons why? and how long the club has known.

So let’s exam the things we do know. The club in public appear to have acted impeccably since the first Chelsea bid – I’ve praised them as I genuinely thought we did not want to sell and he did not want to move.

Now we have to follow through our firm stance and quoted position “he’s not for sale”. Martinez on several occasions (albeit with less certainty as time has gone on), and even John Woods caught on camera on Sunday “I’m not selling, nor is Bill” – I assume he was referring to Stones not his personal holding in Everton….

If we hold firm then Martinez and Stones have to show their professionalism, find a solution and get Stones performing consistently at the level we know he can.

If we don’t stand firm and accept an offer from Chelsea or elsewhere then a huge can of worms are opened.

“We don’t have to sell to buy” – Martinez throughout the summer. The truth, lies or said in ignorance?

If we sell and do not spend, then why? Why do we need to liquidate our prime asset?

If we sell and buy some adequate but not thrilling squad members what does that say about our ambition, our desire to build on what we’ve developed? What does it say to the rest of our young talent about our real ambitions?

What does it say to potential investors? It tells them the club has been managed by asset strippers with limited ambition. That must be reflected in the price of the equity. Allowing Stones to be sold now will be very costly to shareholders as well as supporters that are only interested in the team and performance on the pitch.

It’s a huge few days ahead of the club. The decisions made in this time will say a huge amount about our future direction and prospects.

For the sake of all those that have worn the blue shirt, all those that have stood on the terraces for the last 137 years of our great history, the Board needs to make the right decision. Refuse Stones his move, make the purchases we require for a viable squad this season, seek investment or sell up.

Bra-effing -vo

 

[BigDunc'sFod]

Why are we talking like we are the only club who sells players....a selling club ?? Really ?? No more than Stoke, Liverpool, Man u, Chelsea....Every team sells players, especially when they are making 10 x they're initial investment. Football Clubs all over the world buy and sell players...were even looking to buy players ourselves...how could we if Clubs wont sell theyre best players for profit ? Thats just good business practice for where we are right now. Some of us seem to be forgetting were not the the rich Everton of old....were a poor relation now.



....slumps off to kick something.

Would you sell Coleman for 600 grand mate?

 

[flibbyflob]

It's all been down to Mourinho, Sean. He was the one who unsettled the player through an orchestrated media campaign.

He must be laughing his arse off this evening at Evertonians fighting amongst themselves about whether it is Stones or the Everton board who are most to blame.

For once I am praying Man U come in with a bid and he chooses them instead. That would be the only possible good outcome from this that he now snubs Chelsea and ends up somewhere else.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Adrian Durham is a shock jock carnie who wants you to spend money for the privilege of yelling at him

Indeed, the whole station is gash, i have not tuned in for years.

 

[COYBL25]

Your right in what you say this board needs to show ambition but don't hold your breath they haven't so far. we have two billionaires on the board
who have shown not one jot of ambition for this club they sit with their thumbs up their a**** doing nothing. The thing is it's not just Everton that frustrates me it' the sheer arrogance of the mega rich clubs that gets my back up, take the De,Bruyne player that city are trying to buy, not sure how much Chelsea bought him for but sold him for 18m because he didn't cut it in the prem, and now Man city are trying to buy him for nearly 50m without batting an eyelid it's crazy, take the lad they've just loaned to Juva bought last year not sure how much for but hardly ever plays then farmed out, they stack players who have no hope of playing and loan them out it's a disgrace. Mate it stinks to high heaven and because of the money generated in the prem nothing will get done have just have had enough of it.

For once I am praying Man U come in with a bid and he chooses them instead. That would be the only possible good outcome from this that he now snubs Chelsea and ends up somewhere else.

There's always a chance that the two Manchester clubs will jump in. City's centre backs are getting on and Man U's are badly unreliable. So why not ?. Would push the price up something chronic !

 

[flibbyflob]

There's always a chance that the two Mans

Hope so.

I'd even be tempted to take Evans in part exchange to [Poor language removed] Chelsea off and not deal with them.

 

[DrEFC]

Stones has probably some reassurance re: starting for Chelsea. I can't remember him being that great against euro opposition which is what Chelsea's focus will likely to be this year.

 

[Seanjd]

Completely disagree. If he's only just changed his mind then he has clearly had his head turned by Jose Mourinho and the prospect of replacing John Terry, in which case it's Mourinho's vile media tactics that deserve the majority of the blame. If Stones has wanted to leave all this time and left it so late to put in a transfer request then it's John Stones not willing to forgo a loyalty bonus. Don't see how this can be completely down to the board at all.

Of course Chelsea have a persued a disgraceful media driven way of trying to unsettle and get their target. They show absolutely no class. However, we are also talking about a board who has struggled to hold onto any valued player when decent bids come in (Rooney, Lescott, Fellaini and Arteta). I think with all these cases, we knew we were going to sell them when there was genuine interest, it was just a matter of 'how much can we get?'

I think it's the same here; I personally believe Kenwright and co has every intention to sell and probably knew/know that Chelsea will offer around the £40 million if needed. And so they have waited, and waited, as we were all scared they would do, until there isn't much time left in the window for us to reinvest, but the board will get the money they wanted.

 

[Smodger]

oh thanks John for leaving us right in the cack.

 

[kithnou]

So we’ve reached a watershed – perhaps the biggest watershed we’ve ever had.

It’s difficult because we don’t know the real reasons behind Stones’ decision to put in a transfer request. We don’t know how long he’s wanted to leave, the reasons why? and how long the club has known.

So let’s exam the things we do know. The club in public appear to have acted impeccably since the first Chelsea bid – I’ve praised them as I genuinely thought we did not want to sell and he did not want to move.

Now we have to follow through our firm stance and quoted position “he’s not for sale”. Martinez on several occasions (albeit with less certainty as time has gone on), and even John Woods caught on camera on Sunday “I’m not selling, nor is Bill” – I assume he was referring to Stones not his personal holding in Everton….

If we hold firm then Martinez and Stones have to show their professionalism, find a solution and get Stones performing consistently at the level we know he can.

If we don’t stand firm and accept an offer from Chelsea or elsewhere then a huge can of worms are opened.

“We don’t have to sell to buy” – Martinez throughout the summer. The truth, lies or said in ignorance?

If we sell and do not spend, then why? Why do we need to liquidate our prime asset?

If we sell and buy some adequate but not thrilling squad members what does that say about our ambition, our desire to build on what we’ve developed? What does it say to the rest of our young talent about our real ambitions?

What does it say to potential investors? It tells them the club has been managed by asset strippers with limited ambition. That must be reflected in the price of the equity. Allowing Stones to be sold now will be very costly to shareholders as well as supporters that are only interested in the team and performance on the pitch.

It’s a huge few days ahead of the club. The decisions made in this time will say a huge amount about our future direction and prospects.

For the sake of all those that have worn the blue shirt, all those that have stood on the terraces for the last 137 years of our great history, the Board needs to make the right decision. Refuse Stones his move, make the purchases we require for a viable squad this season, seek investment or sell up.

Can this post be placed somewhere visible for mass public consumption somehow?

 

[Seanjd]

Every offer they've made has been published by Chelsea days in advance, the last offer was £30m last week. I doubt very much they've changed their tactics this late into the window and have upped it so dramatically without informing the media mouthpieces.

Published to the press days in advance of the bid? Although the bids have made their way to the press VERY quickly, I honestly think there has been on going negotiations between both clubs throughout this and that their still is. It isn't totally being done through the media.

 

[markDee]

If he's gone before Saturday we're in big trouble against Spurs. Only Jags as our senior CB and the morale of the fans, players and even manager at a very low level. Even if we have someone lined up and ready to play he will have had no time to bed in.

If he's gone after Saturday then we're in even bigger trouble because we will have 2 or 3 days to get a replacement in.

We cannot sell him. Tell Stones he will get his transfer next summer and use the remaining days to buy 2 quality players (AM,ST)

 

[thebluenosebolt]

*applauds

Tut....now I feel like that fella in the pub that states his case and backtracks the very next second. What a way to state a case. Saluted sir. !! Brought a tear to the eye that..


*..the applause obviously...but also meant for the guy you were quoting.....ahem

 

[just_COYB]

I hope he is a failure at Chelsea and no one remembers his name in three years.

Never happened before that an Everton wonderkid has failed at a Sky-4 club, {cough} Rodwell {cough}.