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Can the usual suspects please stay on topic. As you know, it's been agreed that the Roberto Martinez thread is the one where all the anti-manager bile is poured into.

Please mate, the smell of desperation coming from your posts trying to unseat the manager is nauseating now.

I thought you were netter than this, I really did.

Please stay on topic and stick to the transfer business.

No you're not. You're trying to throw a noose over a tree for him to stick his neck in.

Dont insult my intelligence.

Moyes said 'not for sale' multiple times. Martinez has said it now.

No difference whatsoever.

The desperation is pretty pathetic.

I appeal again: stay on topic, Stop hijacking this thread to continue your grubby work of attempting to smear the manager.

Continually playing the ref and being unable to take your own advice earns you a couple of days in Gulag too
 


Don't start that game now... You're off topic.


I'm still waiting for more Austin info.. He'd be great for us!

Sorry mate.

I can see Austin at Spurs, just seems like the sort of signing they'd make and they've shifted a couple of strikers as well so must be pretty lightweight other than Kane.
 
Mourinho: "Everton could come out now and say he's not for sale and that's the end of it."
Martinez: "John is not for sale, and that is the end of it."

At some point you have to take what is being said on face value. Yes, managers often skirt around questions, but in this instance there's a few factors in play that suggest Stones is staying. First off, Martinez would now look very silly if he went, as he's just said we're not a selling club, we're not selling players, John isn't going etc.

Secondly, the big money enters the league next season.

Third, player prices increase after international tournaments.

Fourth, he's under a long term contract and he's young. It's harder for him to sulk his way to a move as he jeopardises his own career.

And fifth, his personality. If this was Sterling, I'd agree with you. It's not though - Stones has been silent, and nothing indicates he is nothing but a top professional in how he approaches his career. I can't see him unsettling himself when he knows he has bigger moves possible in the future if he carries on developing.

Too many factors for me suggesting he's going nowhere - but after today, the number one factor is the sheer confidence from Martinez in that press conference. It suggests to me the discussion is over.

Wish I shared your optimism mate. All points you make above are fair.

But the one about Stones' personality doesn't sit with me too well.

He does seem like a decent lad I agree. But more than anything he seems like an intelligent lad.

He already left his boyhood club to move to the prem. was willing to be in the reserves for 6 months just to make the step up. Turned down first team football at Wigan to move to a bigger club (us) instead.

Why wouldn't he do the same down? Better defensively minded manager. Better defensive partner. Playing in the CL. Chance of winning things. Better chance of getting into the England starting 11. And his salary will probably be doubled/trebled.

What would you do in te same situation if you were playing for say Villa or West Ham? Decent mid table team but your an everton fan. You have no allegiance to them.

Who knows what might happen in 12 months. He could get a serious injury? Other clubs could buy other defenders and not e interested in him any more? Everton's form could nose dive and he could lose his place in the England squad?

Plus he probably knows Everton need players to push on. But they have no money. Ironically te only way they can get any players to push on is to sell John Stones.

Football is a short term business. Chances to improve/move up are fleeting. L
 
One game into the season and @davek is on catch of the day already. Popcorning at it's best, I even bit a few times last season haha bit too early just yet, a draw on the opening day is not really fume worthy.

Anyway good work dave.

No signings just yet...
 
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