The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[Toffeelover]

Whoever is the idiot who negotiated the kitbag and Chang deals is the most to blame

What about Kings Dock, Fortress funds, Kirkby?

 

[USABlue]

What about Kings Dock, Fortress funds, Kirkby?

Obviously those are badly handled opportunities as well but commercial deals are so damn simple and we still have worse deals than plenty of teams below us, even Sunderland get more on their kit deal I think

 

[Chang Elephant]

Listen I wish Bill Kenwright wasn't in charge at Everton if there could be a billionaire instead. But just to [Poor language removed] him off in a vile way without evidence is ridiculous. I said sincere and honest and you call that canine droppings. Has Kenwright ever been implicated, charged or convicted of fraud? Name one person who knows him that doesn't speak of him in the highest regards?

Freudian slip you mentioning fraud ?
Paul Gregg, Trevor Birch, Lord Grantchester, Steve Wigan are but four

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Can we just all wish for Peter Pan and all things good?

 

[Woolly Blue]

Listen I wish Bill Kenwright wasn't in charge at Everton if there could be a billionaire instead. But just to [Poor language removed] him off in a vile way without evidence is ridiculous. I said sincere and honest and you call that canine droppings. Has Kenwright ever been implicated, charged or convicted of fraud? Name one person who knows him that doesn't speak of him in the highest regards?

As a bloke ? People like him and speak highly of him
As a chairman with the vision needed to take the club forward ? They're not very enthusiastic

And there's the problem. Noone really doubts his credentials as a Blue and the fact that his heart's in the right place, but he doesn't have the drive and vision to do much more than keep us plodding along, and by employing Elstone he's basically saying he's happy with mediocrity.

 

[BoysInBlue]

A billionaire isn't the ONLY alternative to Kenwright.

A slightly richer person with far more business savvy, a plan and an openness to invite fresh ideas & investors on board the club would be a hugely satisfying and forward thinking alternative.

The idea that this is some sort of unimaginable, unattainable fantasy scenario is a convenient myth peddled by BK supporters designed to belittle any opposition.

 

[kithnou]

A billionaire isn't the ONLY alternative to Kenwright.

A slightly richer person with far more business savvy, a plan and an openness to invite fresh ideas & investors on board the club would be a hugely satisfying and forward thinking alternative.

The idea that this is some sort of unimaginable, unattainable fantasy scenario is a convenient myth peddled by BK supporters designed to belittle any opposition.

Aka "The TrueBlue Holdings Syndrome"

 

[cduff]

A billionaire isn't the ONLY alternative to Kenwright.

A slightly richer person with far more business savvy, a plan and an openness to invite fresh ideas & investors on board the club would be a hugely satisfying and forward thinking alternative.

The idea that this is some sort of unimaginable, unattainable fantasy scenario is a convenient myth peddled by BK supporters designed to belittle any opposition.

While I agree that Everton probably can and should do more commercially, I think it is also a myth that there is an EASY fix to this.
You say, "a slightly richer person with far more business savy etc" as if they are 1) easy find OR 2) interested (if I was business savy I would not buy an EPL club). There are a few owners who, at first glance, meet your definition notably Randy Lerner at Villa but have essentially failed to live up to expectations. Effectively, under BK's chairmanship Everton have been the "best of the rest" in the EPL excluding those clubs who have had huge amounts of money injected into them from rich owners. The notable exception are Arsenal who while having a rich supporter base are a very well run club but still can't win the EPL.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Biggest conman in England

 

[BoysInBlue]

While I agree that Everton probably can and should do more commercially, I think it is also a myth that there is an EASY fix to this.
You say, "a slightly richer person with far more business savy etc" as if they are 1) easy find OR 2) interested (if I was business savy I would not buy an EPL club). There are a few owners who, at first glance, meet your definition notably Randy Lerner at Villa but have essentially failed to live up to expectations. Effectively, under BK's chairmanship Everton have been the "best of the rest" in the EPL excluding those clubs who have had huge amounts of money injected into them from rich owners. The notable exception are Arsenal who while having a rich supporter base are a very well run club but still can't win the EPL.

Completely disagree. There are people out there who could buy out Kenwright. Kenwright isn't rich by Prem owner standards.

It involves a will to sell the club at a reasonable price and not be looking to make an extortionate profit. Sadly your attitude is typical of the 'there's no one else but Bill and this will never change' mindset.

Please don't confuse this desire for a new owner with the belief that it will solve all our ills and guarantee success. It wouldn't necessarily - but it would certainly give us a far better chance of moving forward than the current occupants.

I don't want to see us fail - but I'd rather see us failing with investment than failing without it.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Biggest conman in England

Who?

 

[kithnou]

Completely disagree. There are people out there who could buy out Kenwright. Kenwright isn't rich by Prem owner standards.

It involves a will to sell the club at a reasonable price and not be looking to make an extortionate profit. Sadly your attitude is typical of the 'there's no one else but Bill and this will never change' mindset.

Please don't confuse this desire for a new owner with the belief that it will solve all our ills and guarantee success. It wouldn't necessarily - but it would certainly give us a far better chance of moving forward than the current occupants.

I don't want to see us fail - but I'd rather see us failing with investment than failing without it.

well said mate

 

[paultheblue]

Listen I wish Bill Kenwright wasn't in charge at Everton if there could be a billionaire instead. But just to [Poor language removed] him off in a vile way without evidence is ridiculous. I said sincere and honest and you call that canine droppings. Has Kenwright ever been implicated, charged or convicted of fraud? Name one person who knows him that doesn't speak of him in the highest regards?

I dont think people are suggesting we drag him out and hang him from the nearest tree(well not many anyway) the main gripe is the is isnt very good at the job.

THE ROLE OF A CHAIRMAN
The chairman leads the board,sets its agenda and ensures it is an effective working group at the head of the company.He must promote a culture of openess and debate and is responsible for effective communication with shareholders.

Just to say his mum loves him doesnt really cut it

 

[nil satis]

A billionaire isn't the ONLY alternative to Kenwright.

A slightly richer person with far more business savvy, a plan and an openness to invite fresh ideas & investors on board the club would be a hugely satisfying and forward thinking alternative.

The idea that this is some sort of unimaginable, unattainable fantasy scenario is a convenient myth peddled by BK supporters designed to belittle any opposition.

Isn't he a self made multi millionaire???

 

[matty1878]

Isn't he a self made multi millionaire???

He's richer than you and i. But someone else still could buy him out ( his shares)