James McCarthy

[kithnou]

Are you mad?

No. Are you?

 

[kithnou]

The problem over signing Lennon is apparently not his transfer fee but something much bigger, the size of his wages.

In that case, the level of wages at Spurs must be a real attraction for McCarthy.

It was a fake post. And to be honest I would prefer Deulofeu or someone younger to Lennon if we could only get in one.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

No. Are you?

McCarthy is like a fine wine. His class is something to behold and cherish. He's easily worth £30m in today's crazy world.

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Although there is no transfer fee, there are, as you say, other financial factors to take into account when signing a player like Cleverley. So it is simply not true to call it a free transfer, and say that the club has nothing to lose.

Whatever the agreed salary is, the club will be committed to paying it for the length of the contract, or until the player leaves. £60,000 a week comes to more than £3 million a year. Over five years, it comes to more than £15 million. And at the end of it, there will be a loyalty bonus.

There will be a signing-on fee and very likely a fee split over a couple of years. There can be bonuses for appearances, cup success and qualification for Europe.

Then there may be bonuses for goalscoring and clean sheets, international bonuses and award bonuses. A player can keep his image rights and the club will pay him for the use of his image.

Of course, there will also be a fee for the agent who negotiates the signing. So the club does have to commit a great deal of money to sign a player out of contract.

I'm still failing to see your point.
Of course they aren't 'free' in all senses of the word, nobody is saying that, they do cost an entire transfer fee less though. Whoever we get in we'd have to pay them wages, bonuses, image rights etc.

The Transfer fee to get their original team to release them costs us nothing. The rest are just the normal costs associated with hiring any player (with a slightly inflated signing on fee)
Not paying a large transfer fee is cheaper than paying one, are you trying to say we don't pay wages bonuses etc to players we pay a transfer fee for???

I don't see what you are trying to argue here.

 

[kithnou]

McCarthy is like a fine wine. His class is something to behold and cherish. He's easily worth £30m in today's crazy world.

I'll have what you are smoking if you think he is worth £30m. Good player, but limited going forward. Players that offer little going forward/scoring goals are not worth anywhere near that.

 

[The Equaliser]

I'll have what you are smoking if you think he is worth £30m. Good player, but limited going forward. Players that offer little going forward/scoring goals are not worth anywhere near that.

Depends who the buyer is. If it's wealthy club his price would easily be £25m in today's market. It's his value to the team that is important not a players attacking prowess or lack thereof, and he is one of the best in his position.

 

[kithnou]

Depends who the buyer is. If it's wealthy club his price would easily be £25m in today's market. It's his value to the team that is important not a players attacking prowess or lack thereof, and he is one of the best in his position.

£25m? I would take that generosity in a heartbeat. Not worth that for me.

 

[The Equaliser]

£25m? I would take that generosity in a heartbeat. Not worth that for me.

He is an integral part of the backbone of Martinez' rebuilding job. And you want to sell him on the cheap ? LOLOLOLOL

 

[chicoazul]

We should be looking to keep our most effective players who contribute positively to the team.

He is defo one of them.

 

[kithnou]

We should be looking to keep our most effective players who contribute positively to the team.

He is defo one of them.

I agree. I also don't believe he is worth the amounts mentioned in here.

 

[chicoazul]

I agree. I also don't believe he is worth the amounts mentioned in here.

No footballer is worth the amounts they're being bought and sold for. We will make good profit of McCarthy though as his stock is high and his age is low.

 

[FTY]

Would get rid if it means we can bring in someone like Leon Britton + a decent #10

 

[kithnou]

No footballer is worth the amounts they're being bought and sold for. We will make good profit of McCarthy though as his stock is high and his age is low.

yes...agree

 

[chicoazul]

yes...agree

The problem is the deeper midfielder behind him and the attacking one in front of him.

Barry will do for most league games but we got to hope Besic steps up, and Barkley or a new signing creates a lot more in front of him.

McCarthy complements both, but Cleverly may be his competition for when we need a little more invention against teams sitting dead deep against us.

 

[kithnou]

The problem is the deeper midfielder behind him and the attacking one in front of him.

Barry will do for most league games but we got to hope Besic steps up, and Barkley or a new signing creates a lot more in front of him.

McCarthy complements both, but Cleverly may be his competition for when we need a little more invention against teams sitting dead deep against us.

My concern is there are no goals in any of them apart from Barkley, pre this season that is.