Here Lies Some of our Issues - Deluded!!!!

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I said a couple of weeks ago that we may be missing Osman somewhat. Inconsistent as he is, he can still bring something in that CM role.
 

If he actually spoke to the truth, he'd get the underdog spirit firing at Goodison and people would roar the team on more.

Coming out with this nonsense makes people uneasy and angry in the wrong way, because when he calls tepid performances "perfect", it's insulting the fans intelligence and the way they respond is to make it clear that it's not "perfect".
 
Ralphie. You put exclamation marks instead of question marks on your thread.
It is your opinon the manager is deluded it is not a fact.
I do not agree with the criticism that Leon Osman gets in this forum and I do believe that we have missed his input. I believe we have missed
James McCarthy even moreso.
Osman is a clever footballer and is imo not appreciated by a lot of supporters who do not see the guile he brings to a team. He is a managers favourite , both Moyes and RM.
 
Martinez comes out with absolute bollocks every week. Also on Monday and the 2 games before that, Ross was jumping out of tackles and just jogging toward the ball.
 

GwladysBlue said:
Martinez comes out with absolute bollocks every week. Also on Monday and the 2 games before that, Ross was jumping out of tackles and just jogging toward the ball.
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Man is under extreme pressure. Don't expect any rational truths to come out in interviews.
 
Ashtonian said:
Not tor drive a tired point but Cleverely in the summer would have been able to fill in for them in the team. But ship sailed before horses have bolted and all that.

Think it is obvious to everyone we miss players in the team when we are deviod of ideas, but no pienner means Martinez has no idea how to get the best out of Baines either so it takes 2 creative players out the team in one go.

Osman for me is finished as a top flight footballer. If he was signed for like half a million last summer people would agree with me. He has been great but he is seen as a first team player on sentiment alone nowdays if he ever comes back. I have been one of his biggest fans over the years but osman bar the odd goal isnt the solution to our problems.
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Cleverely was booed off the pitch against Liverpool. He was terrible.

This must be the only player where we all agree he is s---

Cleverely is their Phil Neville version 2012, there are endless pages of this stuff:

He is so bad. Can we send him back now and pretend he never played for us?

any manager worth his salt, would see what we see.

To think we were willing to pay £8m for Cleverley!

Commentators today saying how he might snub us for Everton during the Summer. I'd be surprised if Everton were in for him again seeing how poor he has been for us.
Reply: Cleverley "snubs" us?
We can always live in hope I guess.
I doubt another Premiership side outside of the bottom 3/newly promoted sides would want him, based on his performances for us.

Tom Dumberley has got to be probably the worst player i have seen in my 35 years of supporting us!

Wish we would send him back now!!
 
GwladysBlue said:
I'd like to think he was under extreme pressure but I honestly don't think Kenwright would sack him, even if he relegated us.
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Believe me if he relegates the Everton FC his future as a Manager becomes very limited...he is basically washed up as a genuine candidate for any big Clubs.
Definitely feeling it.
 
Rook said:
Cleverely was booed off the pitch against Liverpool. He was terrible.

Cleverely is their Phil Neville version 2012, there are endless pages of this stuff:

He is so bad. Can we send him back now and pretend he never played for us?

any manager worth his salt, would see what we see.

To think we were willing to pay £8m for Cleverley!

Commentators today saying how he might snub us for Everton during the Summer. I'd be surprised if Everton were in for him again seeing how poor he has been for us.
Reply: Cleverley "snubs" us?
We can always live in hope I guess.
I doubt another Premiership side outside of the bottom 3/newly promoted sides would want him, based on his performances for us.

Tom Dumberley has got to be probably the worst player i have seen in my 35 years of supporting us!

Wish we would send him back now!!
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he is yet another dud...would be wasting yet more good money on average footballers at best...NO!
 

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