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gkpaul
Player Valuation: £5m
I cant believe what I am reading!
Talk about looking for someone to blame for what is just down to pot luck for every footie player at every level across the globe. The level these players play at alone will dictate higher odds of an injury.
I play footie every week and, touch wood, have never suffered a serious injury like Jags did at the weekend. I do not even warm up properly at the start of the game! Maybe he should have prepared for his game like I did the night before with a huge steak and chips meal and around 5 or 6 pints of hurlimanns? Or, listen to the people who know what they are talking about because its their job and their damn good at it? I wonder if Jags, Arteta the Yak etc are questioning training methods and conditioning at the club?
These last few years have been the happiest I have ever been to be an Evertonian, we're boss right now, in a final, qualified for Europe again, got a manager who other clubs fans really do admire who has really put together a great team, and he really knows what he is doing too. But, sometimes I just don't get this looking for someone to blame as soon as the slightest thing goes a little wrong. We lost saturday, it happens to TOP clubs every now and then, and as Chico pointed out not to us that often. But, since saturday you would think we have been on a run of 20 odd games without a win.
Just like Yak's and Arteta's injury, Jag's was just pure bad luck.
Talk about looking for someone to blame for what is just down to pot luck for every footie player at every level across the globe. The level these players play at alone will dictate higher odds of an injury.I play footie every week and, touch wood, have never suffered a serious injury like Jags did at the weekend. I do not even warm up properly at the start of the game! Maybe he should have prepared for his game like I did the night before with a huge steak and chips meal and around 5 or 6 pints of hurlimanns? Or, listen to the people who know what they are talking about because its their job and their damn good at it? I wonder if Jags, Arteta the Yak etc are questioning training methods and conditioning at the club?
These last few years have been the happiest I have ever been to be an Evertonian, we're boss right now, in a final, qualified for Europe again, got a manager who other clubs fans really do admire who has really put together a great team, and he really knows what he is doing too. But, sometimes I just don't get this looking for someone to blame as soon as the slightest thing goes a little wrong. We lost saturday, it happens to TOP clubs every now and then, and as Chico pointed out not to us that often. But, since saturday you would think we have been on a run of 20 odd games without a win.
Just like Yak's and Arteta's injury, Jag's was just pure bad luck.
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
No we wouldnt because as you know full well we are talking about injuries that the staff could have perhaps lowered the chance of these places getting that type of injury in the first place..i am not saying they could have been completely avoided..i am saying the the chances of them getting the same injury could have been severely reduced so we wouldnt be in this mess..we are talking varifiable training techniques that have been proven to work over an extended period of time..its like saying that particular training doesnt remotely matter because its all based on luck..if it was different types of injuries id accept that because that would be a case of bad luck.
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
I cant believe what I am reading!
I play footie every week and, touch wood, have never suffered a serious injury like Jags did at the weekend. I do not even warm up properly at the start of the game! Maybe he should have prepared for his game like I did the night before with a huge steak and chips meal and around 5 or 6 pints of hurlimanns? Or, listen to the people who know what they are talking about because its their job and their damn good at it? I wonder if Jags, Arteta the Yak etc are questioning training methods and conditioning at the club?
These last few years have been the happiest I have ever been to be an Evertonian, we're boss right now, in a final, qualified for Europe again, got a manager who other clubs fans really do admire who has really put together a great team, and he really knows what he is doing too. But, sometimes I just don't get this looking for someone to blame as soon as the slightest thing goes a little wrong. We lost saturday, it happens to TOP clubs every now and then, and as Chico pointed out not to us that often. But, since saturday you would think we have been on a run of 20 odd games without a win.
Just like Yak's and Arteta's injury, Jag's was just pure bad luck.
No I am not saying we arent boss..i am questioning the training of these players..the yak i believe is down to bad luck i dont believe for a moment that 3 players in vaughan, arteta and jags got injured out just shear bad luck. 2 of which where too close together..Its not their fault I am however concerned that 3 severe injuries in the same season have occured, for which simple things like breaking a leg or fractures other incidental injuries lay players off, these are not minor..and if your asking me if these could have been prevented..i would say the chances to get them could have been reduced significantly after vaughan got the injury..ironically the same injury the season before..so it cant be a coincidence that we suddenly have 3 this season alone.
But no matter what happens to be honest no matter what we say is irrelevant to the big picture of what is going on...i love Everton with my life and think these injuries have angered me to the point of wanting to pin their injury blame on someone who could have reduced the odds of them getting it in the first place.
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
Which makes no sense, Jags and Arteta are not prone to these types of injuries or they would be getting them season in and out (the injuries arteta has had previously have had nothing to do with ACL), however maybe vaughan could be classed as prone because i believe this has happened 3 times alone to the poor kid..which I think has kept him out of the team for the best part of the last 4 seasons.
Whats Eileen Dwerey up to these days anyway.
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
Which makes no sense, Jags and Arteta are not prone to these types of injuries or they would be getting them season in and out (the injuries arteta has had previously have had nothing to do with ACL), however maybe vaughan could be classes as prone because i believe this has happened 3 times alone to the poor kid..which I think has kept him out of the team for the past 4 seasons.
this is what these lads have to go through to get them sorted out again
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gkpaul
Player Valuation: £5m
Sorry, I mean any footballer is more prone to it than most other sportsmen due to the demands of the game on the body. Some will be lucky and never get such an injury, but others (and it certainly is quite a common injury in the game) are not so lucky. Problem now being Arteta and Jags will more than likely suffer the same injury again now it has happened
I can see why you may think it is a problem at the club, but I just can not see David Moyes letting training methods continuing if it is causing these injuries to our players. He is far too switched on to not notice something like that happening. This is something he would have stamped out years ago if he felt it was a problem.
This whole thread makes me giggle.
Blaming physios, hahahahahahaha.
Blaming physios, hahahahahahaha.
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
Thing you have to bare in mind is, this is the first season where 3 identical and potentially career ending injuries have occured where 2 of those injuries are within 2 months of each other, and the injury which potentially ended vaughan's career a couple years ago, and he is now suffering for it (he was before came back again). Hindsight is a wonderful thing for us fans, but i do think Moyse surely needs to look at this and do some sort of investigation about why this has occured twice in a relatively short period of time.
I dont want this to become so common we end up loosing all of our best players..that is why I am very concerned. ACL is potentially career ending, and there is no guarantee the same injury (as been explained above so well) will not plight the same players over and over, the evidence is right there in vaughan..this is why this type of injury needs special consideration and taken very seriously..its no good just coming out with "its just bad luck" we need to be sure those training methods which reduce these types of injuries are being taken on board seriously (and i cite arteta and jags as case in point..i honestly do not believe jags would have been injured like this had the training been compulsory for all first team players, it would be been reduced significantly, to the point it very likely wouldnt have happened..but now its happened twice so close together)..arteta and jags will likely suffer for the rest of their careers with these horrific injuries reoccuring.
I dont want this to become so common we end up loosing all of our best players..that is why I am very concerned. ACL is potentially career ending, and there is no guarantee the same injury (as been explained above so well) will not plight the same players over and over, the evidence is right there in vaughan..this is why this type of injury needs special consideration and taken very seriously..its no good just coming out with "its just bad luck" we need to be sure those training methods which reduce these types of injuries are being taken on board seriously (and i cite arteta and jags as case in point..i honestly do not believe jags would have been injured like this had the training been compulsory for all first team players, it would be been reduced significantly, to the point it very likely wouldnt have happened..but now its happened twice so close together)..arteta and jags will likely suffer for the rest of their careers with these horrific injuries reoccuring.
Dom1878
Player Valuation: £60m
They Aren't!
trueblues1985
Player Valuation: £6m
or rathbone using the training method for the whole squad, which would reduce the threat of ACL in the first place...prevent it to the point where it likely wont happen instead of using the lame it was bad luck coz we didnt do anything to try and prevent it..the evidence is right there imo...
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