The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

Is it time for change?

  • I'm happy with the way thing are. Kenwright and the Board should stay.

  • Kenwright and the board need to go. We need change.


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His answer will be the same. You're just trying to deflect and score a ridiculous point against a fellow poster.
I was asking a straightforward question, which you've chosen to jump in on and then take a pop at me in the process. Pipe down.
 

For those that are convinced that the Board and/or associates are acting illegally or acting in a manner which is damaging to the Company's (Everton Football Club Company Limited) interests and effecting this alleged activity through the BVI Company, BCR Sports they are probably aware that there is a process through BVI law to force the BVI Company to disclose information which might prove the alleged behaviour.

It is possible to apply through the BVI Courts for a disclosure order (sometimes known as a Norwich Pharmacal Order).

Given the certainty with which some claim wrong doings, I am surprised no-one (to my knowledge) has attempted this. Perhaps their words are stronger than their convictions..........
 
Why would you choose the likes Fulham and Cardiff as examples? They're nothing clubs that would never have even made it to the top flight if it wasn't for someone coming in and financing a push.

Of the established major clubs that have been banking Premier League money since 1992, Everton are the only ones still being ran like it's the '80s. It's ridiculous for any supporter to advocate carrying on with a board which has proven itself incapable of providing the thing we need most - a stadium.

The problem with the sugar daddy argument is that we're not that attractive to one. Liverpool is not Manchester or London, we don't already have a stadium and there are already 6 other teams who are financially quite powerful or very powerful competing with 4 CL places.

Any investment would be very risky and very long term (new stadium) which don't tend to be the deals investors like.

A sugar daddy would only come in for us if we where a bargain which we will never be unless we're about to go bankrupt.

End of story - There's no point in even debating it.

The pressure the fans need to put on the board is to make sure that the money gets actually spent on the team and club and doesn't get pocketed by a select few through various different means which in fairness I don't think they do.

Lets withhold judgement till the window closes.
 
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I'd say Southampton have sold big myself. What's going on with them is another matter to say the least.

But to say our board our good, on the fact that its not an other board is a bit like going " That Putin's a lovely man compared to Stalin"

Lets wait and see what happens at Southampton because at least they have gone out and spent 30 million on developing the academy and training ground. That's more than our lot have spent.

I can understand the logic of selling a load of their first team players massively more than their worth and then taking that money to invest in a decent side that will keep them around mid-table and getting a world class training ground.

Being able to develop young players and then either playing them or selling them on is almost more profitable now than getting that money from ticket sales with a new stadium especially when you look at the prices players are going at when still in their teens and the fact that Southamptom would never be able to fill a bigger stadium.
 
You really have to ask yourself what's in it for Earl...what keeps him here for seemingly no return year on year ?

What keeps Kenwright here, the world's greatest Evertonian, who's in anguish about not being able to progress the club, and had to borrow/mortgage his arse to buy his shares so could probably do with money back on his shares ?

What keeps Woods here, the world's least dynamic company director, hampered by losing the ability to speak ten years ago ?

Why do none of the important players over the Kenwright tenure....Gregg, Birch, Wyness, Ian Ross(even) have nothing to say about their views on the business after leaving ?

Why is their silence bought/enforced ?

There's a bad smell emanating from this boardroom and it's not just from Carter.
 
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You really have to ask yourself what's in it for Earl...what keeps him here for seemingly no return year on year ?

What keeps Kenwright here, the world's greatest Evertonian, who's in anguish about not being able to progress the club, and had to borrow/mortgage his arse to buy his shares so could probably do with money back on his shares ?

What keeps Woods here, the world's least dynamic company director, hampered by losing the ability to speak ten years ago ?

Why do none of the important players over the Kenwright tenure....Gregg, Birch, Wyness, Ian Ross(even) have nothing to say about their views on the business after leaving ?

Why is their silence bought/enforced ?

There's a bad smell emanating from this boardroom and it's not from Carter.

It's probably just a hobby for Earl. Nothing more. I setup a small business and as a part of it we had to get mentors in (older business people who had semi retired) and they really do just do it because it's a bit of fun and they find it interesting.

Now there's also executives that aren't independently wealthy and those ones you have to watch out for as they can bleed companies dry.
 
QUOTE="davek, post: 2890717, member: 1745"]He's talking about the BVI based BCR Sports. As well you know.[/QUOTE]

BCR are in the business of loaning money to football clubs...that no secret....Everton are/were one of the clubs, Fulham are/were another...and there are others.So is Green 'a director' of Fulham as well as Everton ,based on your logic?
 
BCR are in the business of loaning money to football clubs...that no secret....Everton are/were one of the clubs, Fulham are/were another...and there are others.So is Green 'a director' of Fulham as well as Everton ,based on your logic?

You're confusing Vibrac with BCR Steve. BCR is the holding company that has the EFC shares. Vibrac are a finance house that we were informed as being the vehicle by which Green et al were taking their profit out of EFC.

However, Vibrac also have similar arrangements with Southampton, West Ham and Reading as well as Fulham, so maybe old Greeny is on all 5 boards.
 
It's probably just a hobby for Earl. Nothing more. I setup a small business and as a part of it we had to get mentors in (older business people who had semi retired) and they really do just do it because it's a bit of fun and they find it interesting.

Robert Earl as a gentleman business mentor just pottering about at EFC. I've seen some absolute crap in this thread, but this post is a whole new ball game.
 

He got Earl/Green to buy them from the Gregg's. Remember, Bill sold the dream to Gregg and it was him who financed the deal to buy Everton for him. They fall out, and up steps an old investor into Bill's productions.

Just ask @Steve Wigan who is a big supporter of bill. Its also claimed by Gregg, that it was Philip Green who paid for his shares.

People keep getting this wrong. I am not neccesarily 'a big supporter of Bill'..I AM a big supporter of Everton though. I always try to be open minded about debate on here, and have a lot of respect(which I think is mutual) for some of the posters who disagree with my opinions in an articulate and amusing way. What I don't get are the arguments that are simply agenda driven rants based on rumour, misinterpretation, unqualified factoids, and expedient untruths. Bill K has made mistakes and done some things that have made me cringe...but he has also been loyal to this club despite the actions and misplaced hysteria generated by some of our supporters. We will NEVER find our club in the hands of mercenaries like the previous owners of the RS, the owners of Birmingham, Southampton, and many more, and we will always be something very rare in the modern game, we will be A PROPER FOOTBALL CLUB. If you were born an Evertonian, or saw the light later in life ,be thankful.
Steve Wigan (Evertonian from 1941 to date and much longer.)
 
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It's not really. It's a dated question, from when AGMs were banned.

AGMs aren't banned anymore. The club delivered a very slick presentation at the latest AGM, detailing 'where all the money went'.

Overall club debt has been massively reduced.

Yes there is a question mark over 'other operating costs'. That's about all anyone can question though, that and the Vibrac loans.

The debt went up again.
 

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